Anyone have an MF-108M

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Re: Anyone have an MF-108M

Post by aaronharmon » Sat Jun 09, 2012 8:57 am

Hmm I think that mine only get noisy with pretty extreme settings. You could put a noise gate after it or even a low tech volume pedal.

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Re: Anyone have an MF-108M

Post by BHC303 » Mon Jun 11, 2012 2:31 am

Mine is noisy all the time, I have to have it bypassed when I are not using it or I have a constant low noise hiss coming through my monitors.

I have it patched into my mackie's 1202 VLZ3 send & returns.

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Re: Anyone have an MF-108M

Post by MC » Mon Jun 11, 2012 10:29 am

Mine is noisy but I found that if I put the mf-103 before the mf-108m it really reduces the noise. The order of chaining makes a difference.
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Re: Anyone have an MF-108M

Post by BHC303 » Tue Jun 12, 2012 3:14 am

I think my noise might a grounding issue? if the 108 is being patched in from my voyagers cv etc and I overload the circuit it is really noisy, I have found a hard reset of my mixer and 108 to help sometimes.

I find there is a fine line between having a nice wet signal and clipping the circuitry, even with low input green flashing LED (not red LED) I get a audible noise flange sound swirling away with no audio being input and with conservative value settings + with low out put.

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Re: Anyone have an MF-108M

Post by ZenHead » Sun Jun 17, 2012 9:26 am

I’ve had mine for the last six weeks. It’s a great pedal. What others call noisy I consider the character of the pedal. I’m primarily a guitarist and yes I did intend to make a string of classic guitar effects using moogerfoogers. I guess my point here is that guitarist should not expect to have a classic line of pedal effects with the moogerfooger line. If they want that then perhaps they should stick with boss, or something similar. My interest is to venture into uncharted sonic places and pedals such as the MF-108M allow that. You can dial in a classic chorus/flanger sound. You can control the time of the flanger with a control pedal. But the tweakable range of those classic sounds are small compared with the strange to chaotic you can get with the MF-108M.

Where I think the power of the 108M is in creating drones. Kind of like taking a white canvas and laying down a pigment before painting the theme; I hope that make sense. At first I was not sure how to handle the random LFO. But I’ve come to like that feature and find it valuable in doing some of the stuff I’m into. Over all, choosing LFO wave patterns is invaluable.

I do have a question and I hope I didn’t bore any readers away from this part. What are you using to drive the midi sync? I have three sources; computer running sonar, an Alesis SR-16, and a Roland VS-2480. Why I ask this is if I’m using the sine LFO I do get a click per measure that I think is the “start pattern” midi note. I don’t expect that that should happen with a smooth sine wave. What are your thoughts.

Oh and I can’t wait to see what the new delay MF will be like.

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Re: Anyone have an MF-108M

Post by BHC303 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:57 pm

Whats everyone's favorite effect to put in the feed back insert?

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Re: Anyone have an MF-108M

Post by aaronharmon » Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:32 am

ZenHead wrote:I’ve had mine for the last six weeks. It’s a great pedal. What others call noisy I consider the character of the pedal. I’m primarily a guitarist and yes I did intend to make a string of classic guitar effects using moogerfoogers. I guess my point here is that guitarist should not expect to have a classic line of pedal effects with the moogerfooger line. If they want that then perhaps they should stick with boss, or something similar. My interest is to venture into uncharted sonic places and pedals such as the MF-108M allow that. You can dial in a classic chorus/flanger sound. You can control the time of the flanger with a control pedal. But the tweakable range of those classic sounds are small compared with the strange to chaotic you can get with the MF-108M.

Where I think the power of the 108M is in creating drones. Kind of like taking a white canvas and laying down a pigment before painting the theme; I hope that make sense. At first I was not sure how to handle the random LFO. But I’ve come to like that feature and find it valuable in doing some of the stuff I’m into. Over all, choosing LFO wave patterns is invaluable.

I do have a question and I hope I didn’t bore any readers away from this part. What are you using to drive the midi sync? I have three sources; computer running sonar, an Alesis SR-16, and a Roland VS-2480. Why I ask this is if I’m using the sine LFO I do get a click per measure that I think is the “start pattern” midi note. I don’t expect that that should happen with a smooth sine wave. What are your thoughts.

Oh and I can’t wait to see what the new delay will be like.
I haven't ventured in to midi yet. I bought these '"m" pedals, the murf, the flux and the 104m with every intention of going down that road, I'm just not there yet.

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Re: Anyone have an MF-108M

Post by Alien8 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:32 am

So far I have only placed the 104z delay into the insert... Since I did that I haven't tried anything else!! Mind you I have patched various combinations of the two - using each others feedback loops, rather than the pedal in and out.

I will experiment with just about everything at some point I'm sure!
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Re: Anyone have an MF-108M

Post by tommyecho » Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:55 pm

BHC303 wrote:Whats everyone's favorite effect to put in the feed back insert?
I've had really great results placing a POG2 in the feedback insert. Using the reverse sawtooth LFO with a fast rate sounds amazing with the upper octaves.
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Re: Anyone have an MF-108M

Post by Vince L » Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:20 pm

Hello Everyone,
got one today. Very good on synths and fender rhodes.
But I noticed mine is very noisy too, i can hear the LFO actually, it's almost like a tuned oscillator (mine is around a G, low). I know that it's normal to hear the LFO, or the Oscillator (like the MF 102), but it is quite loud this time. if you play some soft music you can hear that sound in the background...
So i'm looking for more feedbacks from MF 108 users, to decide what to do (send it back to see what's going on ?)

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Re: Anyone have an MF-108M

Post by BHC303 » Thu Jul 05, 2012 5:32 pm

Its just how the 108 is I think, mine is noisy as hell, love it though :mrgreen:

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Re: Anyone have an MF-108M

Post by ColorForm2113 » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:33 pm

BHC303 wrote:Whats everyone's favorite effect to put in the feed back insert?
I haven't experimented with this too much but the murf is really cool
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Re: Anyone have an MF-108M

Post by Croyote » Thu Jul 05, 2012 11:47 pm

ColorForm2113 wrote:
BHC303 wrote:Whats everyone's favorite effect to put in the feed back insert?

I haven't experimented with this too much but the murf is really cool


Try the Murf and the Flux together . .. noisy as F@&*!!!!!!!! Really interesting tho.

I've been playing with a long delay, and then the Flux at it's extreme delay settings on the Flange and Chorus. I've found I can bypass the feedback noise (even with feedback near infinite) by putting the 102 in the FB INSERT (and the Flux's stereo out into the Carrier input!) and then set the mix close to 5. No More ZZZAAAAAPPPPP!!!!!!!

. . . and some cool sounds! :lol:

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Re: Anyone have an MF-108M

Post by BHC303 » Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:46 am

Croyote wrote:
ColorForm2113 wrote:
BHC303 wrote:Whats everyone's favorite effect to put in the feed back insert?

I haven't experimented with this too much but the murf is really cool


Try the Murf and the Flux together . .. noisy as F@&*!!!!!!!! Really interesting tho.

I've been playing with a long delay, and then the Flux at it's extreme delay settings on the Flange and Chorus. I've found I can bypass the feedback noise (even with feedback near infinite) by putting the 102 in the FB INSERT (and the Flux's stereo out into the Carrier input!) and then set the mix close to 5. No More ZZZAAAAAPPPPP!!!!!!!

. . . and some cool sounds! :lol:
Sick!

I need a murf... and 101, 102... :mrgreen:

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Re: Anyone have an MF-108M

Post by Roy » Sat Jul 07, 2012 6:32 pm

ColorForm2113 wrote:
BHC303 wrote:Whats everyone's favorite effect to put in the feed back insert?
I haven't experimented with this too much but the murf is really cool
With the Flux self oscillating the MuRF in the feedback loop can make some amazing sounds, really clangy with the envelope on 2, and a bit more spacy round the other side of the dial. Hit the MuRF's drive hard too!

The Flux is so much more than a chorus/flange. I sometimes regret getting it when a few weeks later they announced the new delay, but there is so much that the Cluster can do with those short delay times that I'm not sure the 104m can. One of my fav's is using an envelope to control the amount on the CF to get swell in flanging.

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