With the Moog Eurorack synths, would love a Eurorack compatible version of CP-251. In fact would love all the Moogerfoogers to come back in Eurorack format.
Hopefully this is something Moog will consider. They could be called Motherfoogers ![]()
With the Moog Eurorack synths, would love a Eurorack compatible version of CP-251. In fact would love all the Moogerfoogers to come back in Eurorack format.
Hopefully this is something Moog will consider. They could be called Motherfoogers ![]()
i second this 10x over!! however they canât be priced anywhere near what the current rate for the moogerfoogers are going for!!!.. and to stay mildly competitive they should be priced cheaper than the original foogers were esp. since the footprint is/ would be hopefully smaller. with my little hp ruler (not including wood cheeks) the foogers are about 26hp which is pretty huge per function??? i will say am lucky to have been able to afford one of each of them prior to them being discontinued and shouldnât complain too much, but i wouldnât mind a smaller updated version. or as stated somewhere on here before (or maybe only in my head?) maybe a âm32/dfam/subharmâ 60hp? width combo of all of them in one single unit??? iâd def pick that up!!
Why wouldnât you the same components and make your own ?
I thought that was the whole point of eurorack.
not sure if you were refering to my comment? if so, for me it boils down to time. iâd rather just pay to have it professionally done. i donât have the time/enough time to figure out how to solder proficiently enough to build that many modules. yes, i wish & would love it if i did know how and could whip stuff out, but alas i am only a failed art school sculpture graduate that became a plumber and only has time to rock out on my synth stuff âweekend warriorâ style. however, i can solder copper pipes and pack lead joints! doesnât really apply for electronics though? ![]()
The comment was for edmang or anyone else wanting a eurorack cp251 instead of building one from modules already available.
You donât have to be able to solder to put together a eurorack system. If you buy case with power + Mixer, lfo, mult, attenuators , sample and hold, noise source and slew modules then you have everything the cp251 has. You could order it pre built if you donât want to put the modules into the case and there are shops that if you asked them â I want a cp251 equivalent in eurorackâ theyâll even pick the modules for you.
There are also custom builders where you tell them what you want and they make it, so you could have a different form factor or whatever but that tends to be more expensive.
There is nothing particularly special about the cp251 that you canât get from euro rack equivalents . Itâs real strength is that it gives those functions for use with Voyager, moogerfoogers, ,etc without having to get into Euro rack.
Also, you can buy a eurorack equivalent now. Everything you need is currently in production and available in stores.
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You donât have to be able to solder to put together a eurorack system. If you buy case with power + Mixer, lfo, mult, attenuators , sample and hold, noise source and slew modules then you have everything the cp251 has. You could order it pre built if you donât want to put the modules into the case and there are shops that if you asked them â I want a cp251 equivalent in eurorackâ theyâll even pick the modules for you.
There are also custom builders where you tell them what you want and they make it, so you could have a different form factor or whatever but that tends to be more expensive.
There is nothing particularly special about the cp251 that you canât get from euro rack equivalents . Itâs real strength is that it gives those functions for use with Voyager, moogerfoogers, ,etc without having to get into Euro rack.
Also, you can buy a eurorack equivalent now. Everything you need is currently in production and available in stores.
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Did not think of that possibility. Will have to look into it.
Thanks
iâm going to double back here (i think?) and iâll state that i already have the cp-251 and yes i understand i could pick up separate prebuilt modules to substitute its functionality in my euro system⌠and true they probably would have more power than the current functions of the orig cp251, but iâm simply saying iâd like to get a euro version of moogâs take hopefully with updated possibilities?
additionally is anyone currently using their cp251 with their eurorack systems? Iâve barely tried and when i have itâs beenâŚeh maybe i still am doing something wrong but admittedly i get confused quickly (i think it might be all the pvc glue and primer fumes from my day job as a plumber??) i know i had the noise and lfo making things work at one point
FWIW, the CP251âs +/- 5.6VDC range limits the usefulness of it with euroracks nominal +/- 8 to 10VDC CV range.
For what is basically only a CV utility, this leaves quite a bit to be desired not being able to express the entire CV range of outputs, or clipping out of range inputs.
However, there are Moog-clone eurorack modules it would go with quite nicely; Behringerâs System 55 modules have a +/- 5VDC CV range (plus a bit more on the Behr 960 and CP35âs fixed CV outputs), plus Moogâs own SubH, DFAM, and M32 interoperate very well.
Iâve been considering racking up all my Moogerfoogerâs, but itâs a lot of work to do all 15 mfâs. I would rather play. :0)
CP251 is a very low parts count module. Wicked simple. But it takes Mathâs, Links and a CP3A-M (for instance) to recreate the functions it in ER.
i hear you! and also figured that the volt output was part of the issue. i know âbâ has lots of stuff now for euro and although useful and affordable, i have sworn off purchasing anymore of their stuff âexcept maybeâ that 606 redo looks interesting and also affordableâŚ
anywhos⌠i just am trying to use what i have/ get the most out of it without jumping too deep in to GAS-land because there are so many more modules to buy!!!
I donât blame you. The Behringer stuff has issues for folks with critical standards of excellence - like me! But I find I can ameliorate most of the issues with parts replacements; pots, caps, extra parts.
Also, the Norlin schematics are close enough to be able to handle many types of modifications before they diverge from what B implemented. 921B and 921 have the most changes from Norlins schematics.
System 55âs module complement, design style, and âeast coastâ functionality always made the most sense to me. So, I couldnât resist a small form factor version to fit a huge System 55-like rig into the corner of my bedroom. :0)
I also want a eurorack cp 251 and eurorack moogerfoogers. Perfect complements to the mother range. Also used cp 251s are too expensive now.
Not sure what the OP is asking. I have always used all my (full set of) moogerfoogers and moogs and eurorack together âŚthe only thing you need is either 1/4" to 3.5 mm cables or an adapter module that lets you plug in one format and output the other⌠I use both these options all the time, with e.g. 4ms âlistenâ module and some passive custom adapters a buddy made⌠Hosa sells the cables in different lengths
I have a CP-251 specific question here:
Can we use the mult on the CP-251 to output a single audio source to multiple destinations? I generally take an output signal from one of my patchbays out of the DAW to reprocess them but I wonder if we can use a mult for the same purpose without relying on the DAW?
a mult is a simple multi-drop-single-conductor bus. they are all the same - except a buffered mult, which isnât really necessary except for corner cases, and bad designs. lol
so, yes. you can use the mult on a CP251 to branch an audio signal. audio signals should not make a difference in this case.