Advise wanted
both are the same price new
Voyager Performer $2200 or Voyager Old School $2160 which one would you go for
The dealer who is selling Voyager Old School is reluctant to ship back to Moog to get CV in adjusted for 1V so it can track accurately with a Roland sequencer
The Voyager Performer has the advantage of midi and presets
is sound and build quality the same on both
Thanks in advance
David
Probably alone here, but I am never satisfied unless I am using all of an instruments features and pushing its boundaries. I got rid of my voyager anniversary because it had no limits to push. The old school seems far more manageable to me, but then again I’m a model d guy. Also I never got comfortable with the display screen, it just didn’t feel right with all my vintage analog gear. Depends on your setup,though. So my advice, get a model d.
If you want the touchscreen, midi and presets, then you know which way to go. Not a bad deal for a performer, but you perhaps can find a cheaper used OS.
Id take the OS though. Presets are for the weak.
Eric
Having had a ‘D’ and a couple ARP 2600’s, I’d go with with the Performer. I really like being able to call up a patch DURING a performance. I came to the conclusion that the reason there is a ‘Moog Sound’ is because most people used the same settings for everything because it was too difficult to change repeatably.
Having a modular and the ability to use “Real Panel Control” on the Performer lets me have the knobby interface when desired. And the ability to swap to some really hard to dial in modulated sound patches instantly when called for.
(And just wait for that day when you are playing live and someone walks up to your OS and spins a few knobs to ‘see what they do’ right before a performance!)
OS is for the studio. Maybe.
As an Old School owner, I’d say that if your the type of player that tweaks while playing, then the OS is for you. If you [merely] want to play presets live, then certainly the Performer hands down.
Certainly a very similar layout (from a pots perspective) but on the OS, it’s what you see is what you get. Switch a preset on the Voyager and you’re not quite sure where any particular knob is or more importantly, how much range you have.
I know for a fact that OS’s can be had for less than you mentioned, if you’ve got a bit more cash and play other Midi keyboards, a combo of the OS plus a Voyager RME might be a suitable option. I have a Phatty Tribute and an Old School and am satisfied with the combo.
Thanks for the advise guys
SOS say VOS has only two real negative features—does anyone know why Moog omits CV input calibration
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/dec08/articles/moogvoyageroldschool.htm
but it was another of the Voyager’s hidden aces that I missed the most: other Voyagers let you freely select the number of poles used by each filter, from one, two, three or four. Both the Old School’s filters are fixed at four poles, the Moog standard.
Unfortunately, it was the incoming pitch-CV response that caused me real problems. Driven by the SH101 or by my Kenton Pro 2000 MIDI-to-CV converter, the Old School did not track accurately at all. Moog inform me they decided to omit CV input calibration from the design, and I am advised that the best solution is to use an attenuator from either a VX351 or a Moogerfooger CP251 Control Processor
My final decision is to get the new Moog Performer at $2200 with warranty and look for a used Old School as a compromise
The only other midi keyboard I have is Phatty Stage 2, which Im using just for the great appegiator and USB connection
Rest of my gear is
Roland System 100M and MC-4, OP8M
No polys -I would rather multitrack monos
Get the Performer!
Most of the time i use my voyager, an old school would do the job also.
But sometimes MIDI Out is a blessing, also presets can save your live on stage and switching filter poles may be useful if you try to imitade arp or oberheim sounds…
BTW: I never use the touchpad! For me it seems very unergonomic. It should be mounted near the wheelbox for better ergonomy.
I got my VOS cv input mod’d to track at 1v/oct accurately..its not a big deal.
I’d say if you’re talking studio use & as you have other cv kit,the 100M modular etc, go Old School…get the VX-351 too.
I own the classic Minimoog D. So the Voyager with its presets was a good companion because of the patch memories. They are great to have on stage when you need to change the sounds faster.
But if you don’t have a real analog without patch memory, then the Old School is the best way to get a very good analog synth with amazing more features then the Minimoog D in terms of modulation possibilities. And then add the expanders for a small modular like feeling.