Now that there are 2 foogers being retired, would you like to see 2 new models replace them?
or is the future in modules?
I have 5 foogers & would really like to see some Env Shapers, LFO’s with wierd shapes outputting CV
& some kind of innovative CV control Seq (like the electro harmonix 8 step)
What about y’all?
& something useful the same shape & size as a CP-251 so I can rack 'em!
Now that I am owner of the jack-heavy and foogerfriendly Korg MS20 module I could see a Moog take on the ESP (external signal processor). Paired with some of our ideas from the MF-109M-thread this would definitely fill a hole…
What Im really wondering about are the reasons for the discontinuation of the 105M and the 107: These are the most unique effects in the MF-line, they dont feature extremely rare parts (afaik) and by the serial numbers of my three Freqboxes it seems that they were well loved.
We got the Sub Phatty and the Sub37 for the Little Phatty, which is a fair deal in my opinion, so I`m really hoping and waiting for new Moogerfooger substitutes. My favourites would be a pitch to voltage device / envelope generator / VCA and a new cp-style unit with even more cv control and at least one fully-featured (L)FO.
Cheers, radioland
I am hoping to see a MIDI FreqBox, that would be great! they would have to tighten up the v/oct to do that I bet.
maybe they will replace the MIDI MuRF with some kind of Mini sequencer?
Maybe they have slated all of the Foogers to fade away to be replaced by minifoogers?
You can make complex LFO’s with the CP-251. put 4 LFO’s into the mixer and adjust to taste. The VC LFO is great too, just use another cv source to control the LFO rate. even using a few drastically different LFO’s as cv inputs to the same pedal will usually fake a complex LFO to my ears.
I think a 'Fooger based on the 914 module would be pretty sick. A moog filterbank with a HPF option…please!
While I think this is total ‘dream’ territory, I’d like to see a digital delay paired with the LPF in a 'fooger format. I have the mf104m, and it’s great. A crisp digital one with some solid filtering options would be a killer addition.
No, thanks. I would much rather see Moog stick with the pure analog audio path and leave digital whatever to others.
I’d really like to see a reverb unit and, perhaps, an affordable sequencer alternative to the Cirklon.
+1 for a MoogerFooger reverb
I still (always) wonder if they might someday make a utility CV MoogerFooger or CP/VX format device that has a pair of control voltage envelopes, a looping LFO or two, a VCA, etc.
There are plenty of people with Foogertron type setups that would use such an animal. It seems to be the one thing missing from an all Moog pedal based synth but then again, the FreqBox is going bye bye.
I think Moog has done well with the MiniFoogers but I have no clue how good take up has been; certainly, the Engineering and marketing is very very smart, build is fast, and cost to manufacturer is low. I’m not saying it’s “cheaply” made, just that the design (if you look inside one and consider what type of human intervention would be required) is fairly simple. And board fab, also fairly simple with a minimum of parts.
They will see 4-6 $150 MiniFoogers for every single $600 MoogerFooger. The suite spot of the price range appears to be between the dirt cheap EHX pedals and the $179 price range; people happy to pick up any pedal in that range, and then put it on the for sale block if they don’t get along with it. The Moog (minifooger) stuff is raw and present, working class, get the job done.
Looping LFO would be a great addition. I wonder why they never released anything like that before in one of their boxes? It’s could be so useful.
Sorry, what is a looping LFO with regard to a classic LFO?
I guess you meant “looping envelopes”, which would be great to have! I love the LFOs on the Delay and the ClusterFlux and I`d like to have one or two of these multi-waveform VC LFOs in a cp-style box.
We dreamed about the missing env/gate/vca-Fooger a lot last year in this thread: http://forum.moogmusic.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=21547
Maybe theres hope for such a thing, but as the FreqBox is discontinued this would leave the Moogertron incomplete again. Somehow I cant imagine Moog to make no successors to the 105M and the 107, but how would they improve those two? Maybe they will produce a 107M with more stable pitch tracking and an octave selector, or a 105M with sequence out?
Cheers, radioland
A 914-esque fixed filter bank moogerfooger would be amazing - with control voltage inputs!
I’m glad I got my 104M when I did, but I’m sure there will be a fantastic new 104 version on the way with a more available BBD chip and we can all argue that the old ones are better because that’s what we do 
I’d love a 914ish thing. It is one reason i’m thinking about a 5U system.
They just need to add the LFO, tap tempo, and MIDI to all of the Moogerfoogers they already make; as a first step.
Think of how amazing the Phaser or Ring Mod would be if you could change the LFO waveforms and control the rate to match your song on the fly.
Of course, the problem is it would massively devalue a huge back stock in these pedals that most dealers and even Moog probably has in the factory.
To be quite honest, I’ve about lost faith in Moog; I think they are just going to kill the Moogerfoogers off one by one. The Cluster Flux is next.
That seems a tad bit harsh. Moog has always said the the 104m and the 108m had a limited life due to the chip availability. Moog said “PRODUCTION SUSPENDED” not discontinued. They might need to find a new chip and redesign the unit.
Everyone has said they wanted midi on the 107 maybe we will see a 107M. Who knows what will become of the Murf (I do need to buy one again).
For years there has been pages upon pages posted about the want for cp-style Foogers maybe this is a transition. Now that Moog has the basics covered for guitar pedals (still would like to see a phaser) in the Mini Fooger line maybe they will build the CP Fooger line. if that is the case I say be gone with your Mooger Foogers.
Who knows what they are doing? Only the Shadow knows and they’re not talking.
“Think of how amazing the Phaser or Ring Mod would be if you could change the LFO waveforms and control the rate to match your song on the fly.”
Get a EHX 8 Step. they are like $100
You’re probably right, dude. I was being a bit rough, and I’ve beaten this issue to death.
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Sorry but the issue goes far deeper than this simple fix Marcie!
I own a CP-251 and a CoPilotFx Broadcast, so I have plenty of exciting CV and EXP options available. I would love to add a EHX 8 step at some point.
The deeper problem is the design of the circuits and their inherent limitation that prevent radical expansion.
The MF-103 Phaser is a 12 stage phaser, but the first 6 stages are fixed to being modulated by a Triangle wave LFO. You can add another LFO to the last 6 stages via the sweep-in jack.
I would prefer to see the first 6 stages have a variable LFO, and the second 6 stages have another variabe LFO or the sweep-in jack. This way, The Moog Phaser would finally prove it is more versatile that the Mutron Bi-Phase, which at least allows two LFO options for each grouping of 6 stages. I could even see a Moog Phaser with distinct groupings of stages synched to various LFOs. Tap Tempo would really clinch it’s place as the best.
The MF-102 Ring Mod has a built in Triangle or Square Wave LFO that controls the Carrier. You can insert a different LFO into the Carrier In jack, but doing so disables the Hi-Lo Switch, Frequency and the Mix Knob. This is a MAJOR drawback that requires a complex LFO/CV generator to work around.
Furthermore, maybe Moog should actually even expand the recent Waveform LFO circuit to have more possibilities available. The Subdecay DLX circuit, for instance, has nearly twice as many options to explore.
Just my thoughts.
Plenty of modular out there that will do what you want, for example check Tides by Mutable instruments. It’s even open source so you could convert it to Big format 
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If Moog choose to keep to the MF form factor then they limit themselves to 4-8 knob controls and 10 1/4" sockets (less if there’s MIDI). Koma has pinched the MF style and added front-mounted sockets. Lots of choice is no bad thing!