The Ultimate Moogerfooger

that’s still a steal imo! I have to say tho that i would rather get a couple 107s than a dual vco, much more in mod dept :slight_smile:

Ummm that is probably NOT an accurate price. Probably double that.

Here are the aforementioned price lists.

Im going to submit that that module is an old one, probably around the era of the parametric EQ, the 12 stage phaser and the other Eq that we have seen floating around ebay, as well as the Vocoder and String Filter modules that were offered.

Moog Custom Engineering WAS a department at Moog, but then later it became Moogce and now Modusonics when Mike Bucki sold the name back to Bob Moog. WHat you see in that module is probably from the time period when they were still a part of the Moog factory, just the custom engineering dep. Mike Bucki worked there I think in that dep.

The Address on the back of the unit is not Bucki’s and will probably narrow its production down to a specific time frame.

THe Dualing VCO doesn’t appear on any of my price lists.

That is also quite a bit of rack space to house just 2 oscillators. You could fit a driver and 7 921B’s in that same width but twice as tall, or 4 921’s and twice as tall. I don’t like that the patchpoints are on the back, but having that would still be a nice addition to anyones synth rig. Voltages would likely need attenuation though.

Eric

I actually emailed mike bucki a couple months ago(unfortunately I didn’t ask about price) about the unit to see how compatible it would be with my micromoog and he said it would work perfectly and that I would only need to have a jack on the micro installed so I could send the pitch ribbon out. So it still available

Width wise yes its a lot of space, but its not very tall. If you stack another one on top you will have 4 vcos in the same amount of space as 4 921s

It has its pros and cons. I don’t like that it isn’t a continuously variable waveshape, but it does have pulse width modulation (though not voltage controllable).

I dont like the patchpoints being in the back.
I do like that you can control either 1 or both, I like the syncing feature and I like the fact that they can go into LFO mode, though they don’t go up to 1 foot on the Octaves.

I think with a Micro or any other Vintage Moog controlling it, it would be absolutely fantastic, or even rack that up with a couple of cp251’s under it and you can do a whole lotta stuff with that.




Eric

Analog Organist,
Keep in mind that the Freqbox was intended only as a signal processor. It wasn’t designed specifically to track as an external osc. Steve Dunnington will be the first to admit that, as he designed it.

Half baked '68
I have experienced exceptionally little drift from this unit, but it will only accurately track for about 4-5 octaves, perhaps 6. Beyond that it goes into Ring Modulation. The Ringmod tracks over a much broader range.

The best usage that I get out of the freqbox is like an extra voice. Ill have my voyager set up to play something, and Ill run the freqbox into its audio input, but instead of the Voyager, ill have the cp251 send something like a sample and hold to the freq, and then turn the audio in volume up when im ready to hear it. Its like an extra layer of sound modulated elsewhere. Ill eventually have a 101 to filter it out to keep it seperate from my voyager, micro or Taurus III’s when those are released. But it definately is a handy tool to have when you are multitracking. You get a totally seperate “instrument” snuck in without having to sacrifice an extra mixer space or use the space on a whole extra track.

Also, I used to be of the mindset that the MoogerFooger line of effects was specifically designed for guitarists until I saw the MoogerFooger DVD that came out. I rack mine and only once or twice have used them as a stomp box. They are essentially synth modules that look like stomp boxes. They are too expensive for me to put my feet on lol.
I used to think that Id never be interested in the MoogerFooger pedals because of this guitarcentric appearance. But when I realized that any line level signal will process without any degredation of quality (unlike guitar pedals) then I realized their power.

Im a synth purist too and I still think these are fantastic…and thats not because I absolutely love everything that Moog puts out just because its a Moog…they really are totally functional and I can see why people have multiple units.

One member here has 2 of everything and like 4 CP251’s and I see exactly why its beneficial.

Eric

going by the chart you posted erick, the DVCO is probably $675 - $745. the 1528, 921b and the DVCO were all the same price on the website

EricK -

Thanks for the information/warning on the Freqbox. If you check the earlier posts in this discussion, you’ll see that some were claiming just the opposite, that the Freqbox would serve quite well as an oscilattor. I didn’t at all agree.

I would also agree with your praises for the Moog line, including the Moogerfoogers. I didn’t mean to criticize them. It’s just that they don’t serve my purely musical interests, which is frustrating, considering that I’d like to use more Moog equipment.

I suppose my quest for decking out my Voyager with additional oscilattors will go unfulfilled. Woe is me. Since I have the Old School model (with no regrets), even buying a Voyager rack wouldn’t help the situation.

Speaking of that, has anybody linked a Voyager with a Voyager rack? It must be a fabulous sound. This is one fantastic instrument!

I don’t understand why you couldn’t benefit from it. Theres one member here who really hates the Freq box’s sound. Im working on a design for a product that may be up your alley though, the question is will Moog ever build it.

CF,
Lets hope its that cheap!

Eric

You can always build a small cabinet and use Synthesizer.com VCO’s and the 351 to get things in and out of your OS. Then you can add a ring mod, reverb unit, additional EG’s and VCA’s or any other item you might want.

Just Me -

Hmmm. Sounds tempting, but I’m trying to keep my Moog system fairly self-contained. A Voyager and a module or two is my limit. I don’t want a sprawling assortment of gear, but a powerful instrument that can be moved to a live setting when needed. In other words, I want a set up that can be used in a live performance, without a thousand bits and pieces to worry about.

My only escape from these limitations is an ocassional drooling session over the Synthesizers.com Studio-22 Synthesizer system. Mmmm. Syyyyynthesizerrrrr…

Get yourself a mixer rack like Ive got. Its got 10 spaces on the top and 20 on the front. Its an OSP I think I paid just under 400 for it and prolly paid too much.

Get an RME (5 Spaces) and your cp racked (3 spaces)
Doctom Rack frames 5 spaces tall 8 modules wide.

Get your dotcom oscillators (2) a filter (2) envgen and VCA (4) 8 spaces.

Rack frame 2
Dotcom Sequencer (8 modules wide)

MoogerFooger Rack (6 spaces tall 3 Foogers wide, 4 if its all cp units)

You have room for another rack frame.

Hows that? lolol

I have a pv14 USB mixer that Im waiting on the rack ears to get here and Ill install it in the top.

Update:

Thanks to Frogflip’s photo and map…the Walden Avenue Moog company is the address listed on the back of that Dualing Osc Module.

Thats the CHeektowaga plant. 1976-1987 Thats the era of the Moog telephone, the Song Producer, the SL8, and the Concertmate for Radio Shack.

I wonder if Moog’s failure to produce a Moogerfooger oscillator module can be filled by Tom Oberheim’s newly revived SEM?

See these videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1FsCGyx1YY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Tte5G5ygUY&feature=related


And see Tom’s web site:

http://tomoberheim.com/