The Ultimate Moogerfooger

The Moogerfooger idea was an excellent means of opening up the Minimoog to modular capability, and the Moogerfoogers that presently exist are very interesting and useful. But let’s face it, the ultimate Moogerfooger has not yet appeared. We’re all salivating for the very obvious. When will it appear? Ever?

The ultimate Moogerfooger would be…an OSCILLATOR. Admit it. We’ve all dreamed about it, but few have voiced it. Imagine a four oscillator (or more) Minimoog. What a sonic masterpiece it would be! This would truly push the Minimoog into the realm of the modular synthesizer. So, what’s keeping Moog from realizing the obvious? Produce a Moogerfooger or module that is identical to a Voyager second or third oscillator, and you’ll be unable to keep it stocked.

Actually, the oscillators in the Ring Modulator and the FreqBox can already be used this way. You might want to take a look at the ‘Lord Of The Ring (Modulator)’ article, posted on KnobTweak, which describes the process of scaling the Ring Mod carrier oscillator to the Voyager keyboard CV so that it tracks as you play the keyboard (the scaling procedure is the same for the FreqBox).

This well-known technique allows you to easily realize a four oscillator (or more) Voyager.

  • Greg

I figured some one would make this comment. But why not offer a module identical to a Voyager oscillator?

How does the oscillator in the FreqBox differ from an oscillator in the Voyager?

The MF-107 doesn’t have an octave switch. What is the range of the frequency control?

According to the manual, 25Hz to 1.6 kHz. That’s six octaves.

Forget the minimoog oscillator. Clone a modular oscillator with CV’s for PWM, Pitch, Wavewarping. individual outputs for each waveform, Range from DC to 20khz, etc.

I may be simple, but I’d like an oscillator module that was identical in every way with the second or third oscillators of the Voyager - similar to the synthesizers.com modules. Has anybody tried connecting one of these to a Voyager Old School?

It would not be hard to interconnect a synths.com oscillator to an Old School. All the CV is right at your fingertips. Though you’d also need a power supply and power module like the Q137. Or, you could hook up 11 .com osc’s and run the Old School with those. :smiley: That’s what the CV outs are for. :wink:

It seems to me that foogers occupy an interesting middle ground between modulars and stomp boxes. However, what is lacking are trigger inputs. This all makes sense when you realize that if you had triggers, they would be more expensive and, well, basically modules save the format.

I think this is why they have envelope followers built it. No need for triggers and they function well for dynamic control over the partcular effect so they find themselves strangly at home in a guitar rig.

So would I buy an oscillator? Not really. I guess for me, I have a Korg M3 with a Radius so if I want to run a partciular sound I have 2 main out and 4 auxillary all of which I can run through my foogers including basic waveforms.

And, if I want a modular, and I do, then I will build it. I guess I see my foogers as firmly in the middle ground and they work well for me there so a pure oscillator fooger wouldl not be that useful to me.

Obviously, if you want a modular you should get a modular. But a Voyager with a fourth oscillator would be similar to a modular; it would be a micro modular. It would even be an easily portable modular. That’s what I was thinking of. I don’t want an immense instrument, but I’d like to have the ability to multiply tones for an immense sound. Since the Moogerfooger idea seems to follow this approach, it would seem only natural to allow one of the supreme capabilities of modular synthesis, which is multiple oscillators. Such a module would definitely be a great help to me, and I think to many others as well.

I have a Voyager Old School, and a Dotcom modular with 5 x Q106 oscillators. Yes, I have had my OS keyboard controlling 8 (count 'em) oscillators, and yes the sound is massive (it makes me feel powerful when I do that…) :wink:

http://www.moogce.com/prod04.htm

Beautiful thing, there! :open_mouth: Somewhat reasonably priced. Too bad it probably has doubled in price since that price list was published. It probably costs close to a grand now. :angry:

Aside from whats already been said about the Voyager’s and Freqbox Oscs, the Freqbox manual says that its a descendant of the Voyagers oscillator and that it offers NO temperature controlled drift protection.

The MF-107 Freqbox seems to be set up, not as a sound source, but as a modulation source. Does anyone know of a video showing it easily used as an oscillator? Again, pardon my simplicity, but the 107 doesn’t look like a regular Moog oscillator, even if it can be forced to behave like one.

The Freqbox is definately intended as an oscillator but it uses hard sync. It is not easy to get a nice stable tone from however especially a timbre with a lot of harmonics. It can be used somewhat effectively with guitar if you back of the mix a bit and use neck pickups.

This thread should give you a lot of examples and a lot of chatter on this topic:

http://www.moogmusic.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6817&start=15

Can the freqbox be used as a modulation source? Sure, but to ignore its ability for hard sync and FM is to not see its magic.

All of this only proves my original point. I’m a stubborn synthesist who wants a simple straight up bona fide fourth oscillator with no frills. I don’t want to tweak an expensive foot device in order to get it to behave like my other three Voyager oscillators. Nor do I need the other capabilities of the Freqbox.

Looks to me like you have a couple options here. :slight_smile: A simple Synthesizers.com oscillator with power supply/power module, or rather than an “expensive foot device” do what I did…build a potentiometer bank. Using substandard pots made in China and a large project box from Radio Shack, it should cost about $40 for eight pots, 8 TRS jacks and the project box. Add $25 for a basic Weller soldering iron and $4 or $5 for enough solder to complete the job. That will let you tame the FreqBox. :wink:

I use the 107 as an oscillator all the time.

I’ve made a few demos.







thanks for viewing. I am sure there are a few more, if you check the link in my sig.