Just got one today having never gotten the chance to demo it. It’s a heavy joker, the sliders feel good.
I opened the envelope of the Voyager wide open and ran Voyager to Ringmod to Delay to the Murf, stereo out to the board and into the headphones. Very airy, metallic and peaceful yet dark interplanetary textures.
I love the Rhythmic possibillities of this little thing. I haven’t even started with the Midi stuff yet.
I was a little aprehensive about this unit being a 1 trick pony but its a very nice filter with loads of modulation. I almost with that the LFO’s had a controllable rate, but I haven’t checked out the manual enough to see if this is possible via midi.
I am very impressed and I think that having something rhythmic like this really opens the door to the types of things that 1 person can do with a synthesizer system.
Now I really really need my Taurus Pedals! One month to go until shipping.
Definitely are more useful with harmonically rich, sustained source material, but you could get into some cool stuff with the trigger inputs. How about the percussion controller/touchpad gate advancing the steps? Video?
Try feeding a noise source into it. (CP-251 or VX) The video of a std Murf is just noise and then a loop through of the Lowpass at self oscillation.
Very rhythmic! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XenT2ZkDlJ8
I think that the problem with most audio clips and youtube demos is that people turn the mix all the way to 10 and the envelopes all the way to 1. THey they flip through the patterns and it gets so boring so quickly.
Moogerfooger demos really suffer from the fact that not too many people really show the subtle things that they can do.
The Murf sounds awesome in stereo, AFTER your delay its like an underwater acid trip. With long envelopes, even better. I think the LFO is a really nice touch.
Figuring the best way to hook it up, the best place in the audio chain is really a nice little game of patching and repatching that gives this unit a lot of versatillity.
All I have right now is the Voyager, I had a really beautiful patch running through it earlier but I needed another synth ( I feel the urge for a poly…) to accompany the bliss.
Im really digging the hell out of this pedal. Its also really making me yearn even more for a fixed filter bank.
With the same chassis, they could certianly make a VCO/sequencer
with the sliders controlling the pitch.
Bob really has a great effect in this unit. I only wish that it had a resonance control too, but the harmonics it produces are really nice, I just wish that I could adjust them.
Run an LFO from the 251 and feed it through the mixer to offset and attenuate the voltage. Send it to the envelope in of the Murf and let it gently roll the envelope. Sounds great.
Thats an interesting idea, ill be it sounds nice ill have to try that.
Ive noticed that tweaking the mix knob slightly slows down the tempo on my unit (the led included) enough to be quite noticable. I wondered if it was just a temporary voltage dip there, but I figured that the tempo would have “jumped” back to normal, its like it returns to normal tempo just as fast as it slowed down (like it glided to a slower tempo then glided back rather than a jump)
I had thought of the suggestion to use the touchplate to skip through the steps, I have only had this thing for hours, but haven’t figured out which voyager parameters control which Murf Parameters. I saw there were 8 keys near the right off center of the keybed that stepped thru the filters.
My thought was to use the Touchpad gate signal as a tap tempo in lieu of the FS1. That might be more useful for me.
Anyway, Im still getting used to this, I don’t even think Ive fully gone through all the patterns yet.
This evening I used the Murf in the Mixer out/Filter in jack.
It sounds very neat.
Right now I find myself using Bass 3-5 with the envelope around 4.5 or so, long but not backwards. I usually run the sliders all the way up because doing so really brings out the most of the sound of the Voyager.
I also love the Breakbeat patch B 11. Its very 8 bit with choppy envelopes.
Im finding myself really wanting to be able to sync the Voyager’s LFO to the Murf because turning the Oscs off, running noise to the Murf on the breakbeatsetting, then sending a S&H to a totally resonated filter for an accompanyment is so neat.
I need my taurus pedals so that I can lay down a bassline while this is going on.
Basically, Im just saying in this post that the mixerout filter in is a great place for the Murf.
Oh, the touchpad, keyboard gate doesn’t work with the tap tempo like I thought. I think the gate continuously sends a rapid fire pulse to the murf when you hold a key down or hold your finger on the touchpad.
I guess Midi is the real way to go here with the Midi Murf. Talk about a revelation there lol.
The gate should be static (on/off) or else wouldn’t the VCA on the Voyager be going haywire?
Do you want to do tap tempo? If so, the tap input goes active when the gate is at zero volts. So it’s actually when you release the key/touchpad that it senses a tap. This is why you need a normally closed footswitch for the tap input. You can use a normally open one, but it’s a little awkward as you have to step off the switch when the beat comes around.
If you want to advance the step, you either need to buy the $20 adapter EDIT $40!!! or else use a stereo Y-cable, otherwise you’ll just be using the tap function.
Yeah you are right, what I didn’t consider is that the gate is such a high voltage, its like it revved the rate all the way up, hence making me think it was firing rapidly. I hit it several times and it didn’t change the tap, only when I touched it did the rate increase dramatically (until I let it go).
I guess Ill just have to wait for the footswitch. I still with there was an LFO gate out though.
LFO gate out for Voyager:
VX-351 Far right side second from the top jack. LFO Sq out.
That will be your LFO sync’d output to external devices.
It will keep resetting the tap tempo rate every 3 cycles. On a standard Murf the step rate is twice the LFO flash rate of the LED. (Steps on the leading and falling edge of the square wave of the LFO I think. Would be cool to be able to PWM that signal!)
Im in a transition right now, waiting on a laptop to arrive in the mail, and my sister is borrowing my multitracker. I will post some audio and video demos when I get the chance because there really aren’t any great demos of the murf or of the Foogers out there.
Now what Im trying to do is to use the B11 and have the LFO playing 16th notes on a S&H for some 8 bit stuff, so I need the opposite to happen, the Murf’s responce to he half that of the tap tempo. I don’t know anything that works in reverse like that though.
And when I used the Square wave LFO out, it was like it was picking the absolute lowest rate setting, and then the peak of the square wave was the absolute fastest of the rate setting, so that didn’t work well.
I don’t think theres any really excellent way to sync the Voyager’s analog LFO to something else since you can only synch the start of it, but It looks like Im going to have to do it MicroMoog style and just use my ears.
Another thing that Im thinking is really having an impact is that let’s say for instance we know that knobs are super sensitive. Lfo’s and even the frequency of the 102 is super sensitive. Trying to get a speed of the LFO that is IN BETWEEN 174 and 175 on the display I think is also making it difficult for me to manyally sync them together. I think the Old School would probably be better served for this purpose. I see what everyone is talking about now how they want to do extremely minute changes to Oscs and things. Up to this point Its never been an issue for me.
Ive been picking a tempo that feels really like a good natural walking tempo and trying to sync the lfo to that, perhaps I shohuld find that tempo with the LFO first and then get the Murf to go that way.
If you don’t want it to sync at the rising edge of the LFO square wave, run it through the lag processor on a CP-251 and adjust it to where you want it to start. It will of course have to be re adjusted anytime you change the tempo.
The MIDI Murf may not handle the tap tempo the same as the std Murf. Plugging into the tap/step in jack sets the tempo after 3 pulses, not acting as a square wave in to the LFO rate and setting 2 alternating rates. (You did plug into Tap/Step In and not RATE, correct?)
As far as the timing between units, the only thing I can think of is to use a shift register module or gate sequencer and route it’s outputs to each machine as needed.
Sounds to me like you had the TS Gate output connected to the MuRF Rate input jack. You want to connect to the MuRF Tap/Step input jack. See if that works a lil better for ya…
I got a midi murf as my first moog pedal. This this is amazing! The midi implementation is brilliant and the filters sound incredibly good (so does the drive). It’s worth the money for the filters alone. You can turn the animation off and use it to shape the resonance of your sound and really change the timbre of your oscillators or whatever you’re running through it. I’m seriously considering getting 2 so i can run them in true stereo and use them kind of like a 2 channel resonant equalizer.
EDIT $40!!! or else use a stereo Y-cable, otherwise you’ll just be using the tap function.