Subsequent 37 & Ableton - Midi Clock & Arp Sync Sound Issue

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Hey All,

New Moog user and first post. Thanks in advance for any help. I just got a Subsequent 37 the other day - Its been really exciting and also frustrating for a new user in all the ways many of you are probably familiar with. I’ve been trying for 3 + hours to try and resolve this issue via the net & tutorials and I’m at a total loss.

Last night after quite a bit of tinkering I was able to get the Subsequent 37 sync up to Ableton tempo / midi clock and had a ton of fun. Came home to keep tinkering and learning and its been quite a frustrating night. I was exploring the menu’s tonight and made a bunch of changes looking through them all and then decided to try and make some music and have fun again so I did a settings reset from the global menu and started over plugging into ableton.

After a couple hours was able to resolve a midi loop issue (I think… phew!) and how I’m stuck with a 2 fold issue:

  1. I cannot figure out how get the subsequent 37 to map to Ableton as the tempo or midi clock master (and thus change the function RATE knob on Moog)
  2. If I select a preset I can play just fine. If I turn on the Moog arpeggiator it seems to work fine. But as soon as I have both ARP and SYNC on to map it to the tempo and midi clock on Ableton the sounds and keys total shut down and I can’t play anything until I choose a new preset - it seems other settings are re set as well like the octave choice I was working in.

Choosing a new preset allows me to start the whole process over but until I choose a new preset and start over everything is dead.

More details:
Connected to computer via USB
Audio through Duet USB

Settings I’ve tried changing:
TRACK & SYNC enabled for MIDI input and output in Ableton
In port - Have tried USB setting and BOTH setting
Out port - Have tried USB setting and BOTH setting
Send Clock - Have tried both ON and OFF and ARP
Send Program Change (Seen other say this can cause issues) - Have tried ON and OFF

I can’t figure it out. Could totally be an obvious thing but I’ve exhausted everything I can find / think of. Given the way the Moog is sort of shutting off I’m wondering if there is maybe some other issue? Especially considering it was working so great last night.

Any help would be greatly appreciated…!

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I’m not a big user of DAW (to old to learn new tricks but trying) so I hope this is useful advice.
From page 15 in the manual:
WARNING: When SYNC is ON, and you are not in TAP TEMPO mode, the arp/sequencer will not play unless MIDI clock is received.

So, does that mean you should be in Tap Tempo mode? Otherwise it just goes into a null state?

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Hi,

did you get a resolve with the sync/arp-issue?
I´m having a similar problem with Pro Tools,
midi is received, but when switching on both arp and sync, all playback stops..

  • midi is still sent and received when sync+arp is on (monitored with midi monitor)

see screenshot of my current settings attached.


Thanks,

Henrik
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I resolved my issue, it was in Pro Tools:

Setup > Midi > Beat Clock > Sub 37 was unticked, needs to be ticked on.

H