I wanted to post this here before putting any ads on craigslist or ebay.
I am selling my Moog muSonics Sonic V and my Fender Rhodes Silver Top Suitcase Piano. I never claimed to be sane mind you. I’m a gigging musician. I gig with every synth/keyboard I own (not all at once) and I have to sell these before I decide to gig with them and possibly ruin them. I just won’t take these out. They’re too valuable and irreplaceable. Here’s what the moog looks and sounds like.
The Moog is SN#74. Word on the street is that they made less then 100 of these and some folks say less then a few dozen. I couldn’t really say, but I do know it’s extremely rare and should be used as a studio only piece. The outside cabinet has some chips/dings. The internal speakers work fine. The outputs work fine, however there is a very low level continuous high pitched whine whenever the unit is on. I just put a noise gate on it and all is well. It’s missing a few sliders/caps, but everything works with no issues. I bought it not too long ago and besides not wanting to take it out, I find myself playing it too often and it’s taking me away from my other synths. Why, just the other day my Andromeda told me it might start “acting” up if I don’t play it more.
Heres what the rhodes looks like. Sorry I have no sound files.
The Rhodes is SN#660 and has no signs of date stamping anywhere on it. It plays ok, not terrific, not awful, just ok. It will need a bit of a tune up and one pick up, the lowest f#, is dead. The outside is in terrific shape.
I’d prefer to not ship the Moog But I will so long as the buyer doesn’t mind. I will not ship the Rhodes.
As I stated in my post, I gig with everything I own. I believe that every piece of gear I own should be showcased. I’m not into hoarding stuff in my studio. If I’m not using something regularly on gigs I sell it. I’ve sold my Memorymoog, my Polymoogs, my Pro 5, my ob8 and my Mini. I’m practical for my lifestyle, it’s a shame you have an issue with that. Keep your judgements to yourself.
I just don’t understand why you would buy something like an ultra rare Sonic V and gig with it for one. But to buy it in september and then sell it in october because you are afraid you are going to take it on a gig and ruin it sounds questionable.
It sounds to me like the “showcase” you are referring to is one of a sellers showcase, which is fine if thats what you want to do, but spamming the forum with a classified ad for some craigslist Moog inflated price rape ain’t nothing but pure spam.
You don’t have to understand but I’ll try to help you. I posted this ad here first to the members of a knowledgeable forum who are players and enthusiasts. I figured the people in this forum would generally know the values of these items. I’ve posted no asking prices. I’ve posted no craigslist or ebay ads, and all that aside, you consider one posted ad here in this forum to be spam.
In fact, you seem to have enough of an issue with my post here to slander, so let me tell you a little about who I am. I’ve shared the stage and studiio with countless musicians. I’ve lent some my equipment to events such as “Moogfest” and “Deutschfest”, and to places such as Hofstra University and many clubs here in New York. Sometimes when I’m not busy, I’ll play at open jams in my area for a bit and let other keyboard players come up and use my equipment. I’ve spread the word to countless people about analog synthesis and vintage keyboards over the years and throughout all that, I’ve tried to maintain a relatively low profile. Thats what I do, and I’m grateful for those experiences.
Now, as for owning the Sonic V for a short time… Some gear I keep for a long time, some not so much. The Rhodes I’ve had for years. If no one wants to buy either of them then I’ll keep them, I just don’t like things not being used.
Having said all that, maybe you, along with anyone else who may have had doubts about my intent here, can understand where I’m coming from. My apologies for the long post and name dropping.
I’m sure you’re a very nice person, however, you are way out of line.
I do not make that many posts on this forum, but I feel compelled to tell you about Charlie. Whenever I guest-lecture for Herb Deutsch at Hofstra University, Charlie is the first person to bring pristine analogue synthesizers, such as the Mini Moog. He helps me set up the equipment, assists me with the class and lets students, who are unknown to him, play with the equipment that most people wouldn’t even take out of their house. Anytime I tried to offer him compensation, he has refused. He is respected in his circle of musicians and of course, by the man himself, Herb Deutsch.
Lastly, Charlie is an incredible musician-composer that if you knew him, I’m sure you would feel differently.
All I’ll say is after seeing a bazillion spammer crooks on the internet I don’t trust much of what I see anymore, especially with sales.
I think maybe Erik has seen a lot of the same and feels a bit bitter and un-trusting about people selling things in general, so that’s probably where that’s coming from. I think it’s just a misunderstanding.
Charlie, I love the sound of that ‘Moog muSonics Sonic V’. Very rich and sweet. Good luck selling it.
You know, heres what we have to go on with spammers here on the forum and you fit the bill pretty much exactly.
(Makes 1 lone post, then spams with something like a website or link to something)
You:
September 13th, 2009
Hey I just bought this Moog musonics, heres a link to my video, ill post more as I make them. (Which in itself is a very cool contribution in and of itself)
A month later:
Hey Im selling this Moog and Rhodes, heres a link to my video (proceeds with detailed item description and later adds that you have sold lots of other very expensive synths. THe whole reason for selling it is based on the fact that you feel as if impulsively you will gig with it. You reckognize its priceless value as a museum piece, but then are willing to ship it. This is so contradictory to reasonable logic.
So yeah, that does look fishy I think you can even see how this has all of the hallmarks of spam. I started to not comment at all past my initial post of that being ridiculous, which really wasn’t an attack on you personally I was just saying that because logically it just didn’t make sence.
Going back and looking at your previous posts here before I made my second responce to you, I just KNEW that Rob Smith would chime in on this thread because his posts to you from before (how you made him sell you the mini and then the fact that you sold your minis.) sort of looked like a team based scheme when we see you are selling now.
Then theres the butter on the toast for me and probably the motivation behind my responce to you, and that is people who know that the Moog name artifically inflates prices on Craigslist and ebay. We had another member here trying to sell a butchered polymoog part on a “private” auction when a third member here pointed out that just before the first member posted about his part for sale, he was on a DIY site getting LOTS of advice and who made the comment “Put the Moog name on it and it will drive the price way up”. That part sold for over 2000 dollars on his “Private” auction because he would say something like “Billy Bob just bid 800 bucks and Jim Bom bid 950” with no possible verification of those bidders or those prices. Then the “auctioneer” who was selling the part said on another forum that I happened to stumble upon “there is a DIY site where you can build those polymoog parts, and For the price mine is getting, theres no way I can turn down selling it. I might have 3 or 4 more polymoog boards when im done.”
So let me say that my intentions here were righteous. I don’t want to see anyone here get raped on Ebay by scammers. We have had issues here with spammers before so while you fit the bill perfectly, I can see where I might have been out of line.
I apologize for that.
This type of misunderstanding is very typical of text only based communication where there is no emotion behind what we type, so ones words can be interprated in many different ways.
Thank you Eric, really, thank you bro =) have no worries, it’s all good as far as I’m concerned. Thank you Rob as well, you are a dear friend. I’ve been a member here for a few years but I haven’t really contributed much to the forums, I guess I should have introduced myself better earlier on. I’d like to think of myself as one of the good guys but one should beware of ones own opinion.
BTW, I begged Rob to sell me his mini some time ago because the day it was made was very special to me. I’ve since then sold it because I wasn’t gigging often enough with it. It’s the only synth I ever regret selling.
Between you, me and the rest of this forum, Rob has done more the the Moog community then I could say. He’s also helped sell quite a few synths for the company too! We’re not a team, just good friends who care about music.
Now we can all live in harmony… if only our world leaders could work like this.
Charlie, the Sonic V you demoed on youtube, was there any efx put into the signal, and what equipment did you use to record it? I’m struck by the great sound. I’m familiar with a Sonic VI but the Sonic V, in addition to having the wood case, what other differences are there? I can’t really speak to anyone else’s posts regarding your posting this topic, so I won’t go there. Thanks for the link!
I ran the Sonic V into a UA LA-610 pre into a MoTU 896 mk3 interface into a MacBook Pro.
I’m running Logic Pro 8. I added a touch of tape delay, reverb, comp/limit and a noise gate (all logic).
As for the differences between the Sonic V and VI. The VI has a pitch wheel. The V has a diode based 24db filter, as do some of the early serial number VI’s. I’m not certain when Moog started putting their 24db transistor ladder filter in the Sonic VI’s, maybe someone else here can tell us. The diode filter sounds great and unique to my ears. I don’t know if both synths have the same keybed, but I will say that the Sonic V’s keys are very responsive. You can really rip on it.
The only other difference I’ve read about is more hearsay then fact. Some people seem to think that the Sonic V’s internals were built better then the VI’s but what this is based upon I couldn’t say. I don’t know if they use the same board construction or the same parts, but their layouts look the same to me.
If anyone else has something to add here please do so.