New Voyager OS

The Moog Forum Minimoog Forum
1

Hey there. This is my first post, so just wanted to introduce myself. In the real world I’m a guitarist, but I have a real passion for analog subtractive synthesizers. I had a Little Phatty for a bit, but I’m currently awaiting the delivery of my new Voyager Old School. I spent a lot of time trying various models, and found that the OS was definitely the Moog for me. I love to experiment with sounds and rarely desire to revisit past patches.

I do plan to purchase some additional Moog products like the VX-351, CP-251, MP-201, and some MoogerFooger pedals. I’d love to hear some of your experiences with these products. Thanks, and I look forward to future conversations.

2

Welcome to the forums! The OS is perfect for what you want to do! As far as 'Foogers, you’ll want to check out the MF-102, 101, 107, and CP-251. The 105/105B would also be a good choice, but is not a necessary addition. Don’t forget lots and lots of patch cables! One can never have too many patch cables when going 100% analog. :wink:

3

Thanks for the reply. I noticed from your response that you own a MF-103, but did not include it in your suggestion list. Would you care to comment on it and possibly elaborate on the devices you suggested. Since you own the 102 and the CP-251 I’d be curious to know how useful they are and what features you gravitate towards in each of these products.

4

The MF-103 is a great phaser…possibly the best on the market. However, as useful as it is, it should be something that you buy later as an add-on. The 102 is much more useful, IMHO.

The phaser together with the 102 make for total awesomeness. I use the 102 for bell-like tones and chime effects. When mixed with the phaser, it makes a really wild wind tunnel sound.

Or it can be more subtle as in a Leslie-type effect. The 251 allows for mixing of CV signals. I use it for the additional LFO and S&H mostly, but on occasion will experiment with different patches.

Check out my YouTube channel if you haven’t already. I’ve got a few informative videos on how all this stuff can be utilized. I’ll be making another video soon, as well. :wink:

5

You are going to LOVE the OS. Congrats on joining the small group of OS owners!!!

6

the OS has the onboard ability to get a nice ring mod effect…using Osc3 to modulate Osc1. You may find you don’t need the MF102…and the money might be better spent on the VX351/CP251…both essential in my opinion.

7

Thanks for the input. Would you please expand on your recommendation to get the VX-351 and CP-251.

8

Interesting info, acorkos. I was unaware of that. :open_mouth: In that case, may I suggest the MF-107 as an extra oscillator? Maybe even two 107’s, to make up for using osc. one and three as a ring mod. :wink:

9

How do you make OSC 3 modify OSC 1? OSC 1 isn’t an option for destination. If you set OSC 3 to affect PITCH, would OSC 3 start modulating itself, as well as OSC 1?

Anywho, you’re going to love the OS. Be sure to download the manual off of the website, and make copies of page 56 (blank patch sheets) just in case you find a sound you really like. I bought the CP-251 before I got any foogers, which was a mistake. Don’t get the CP-251 unless you have some things to screw with the OS. Making the OS play with just itself gets a little boring after awhile. Remember, you can make notes re-trigger even after initially pressing a key, by holding down the first two keys while the OS turns on!

I think the OS looks better than the other Voyagers, but that’s just my opinion. :wink:

Oh, and be sure to tell us the serial number. We all want to know exactly how many there are.

10

I think its easy to say that all the Foogers are needed, but really the RIng Mod makes an increadible addition to the Voyager, as does the Delay.

The CP251 is essentially an outboard modulation bus. Its capable of quite a lot and anyone that knows about synthesis knows that modulation is whats key.

Basically you are going to want all of the Foogers, even the 101.

Look at them this way. THe 101, 103 and 105a/b comprise your filter bank. (Think about the Modular Synths’ filter bank, High Pass, and Filter Coupler modules)

Ringmod and Freqbox can be your oscillator banks (with the vx351 and cp251). The delay is the goodie effect, and the Mp201 is another ergonomic modulator.

THe vx-351 is essential if you want to use your voyager to be the main controller (if you are foregoing midi, and you are as an OS Owner). SO in that respect the vx351 is one of the more critical units if you have or plan to have a lot of other Voltage Controlled devices. Also the Voyager CV outs can go right back to its CV ins even if you don’t own another Fooger.


I think Id have to go with the Ring Mod. I was messing with the Ringmod and the Delay for about 45 minutes last night. Those have to be my favorites so far.

I own
Voyager/vx351
CP, 107, 102, 104.
Theremin (Waiting on the factory upgrade to become available)


If you get either the vx351 or the cp251 seperately, get another fooger to go with it. I think the vx351 will let you interface the Voyager wonderfully, but without another voltage controlled device I think one would get tired of simply interfacing with the voyager itself all day long, even with the cp251. Although just those two alone are great.

Id get the Vx351 (for the in out interfacing) and another fooger, so youd have a place to send all those voltages to. THen your next purchase would be a cp251 and a second fooger. (Think Freqbox)

Reading back, the CP251 would be nice for your phatty.

Be sure yo get some TRS Cables for the insert jack on the OS.



Respectfully,
Eric

11

VX-351 allows you to use the OS’s CVs to control itself as well as other CV gear. CP-251 has an LFO which you can use to control the OS independently of its own LFO, Lag processor is nifty when using a CV sequencer to run the OS (or other CV synths). Check out the KnobTweak yahoo group for lots more ideas…

12

it’s not really ring modulation…it’s frequency modulation. there’s a switch under Osc1 that activates that feature…from the manual:

“3-1 FM:
In the ON position, the 3-1 FM switch turns on linear Frequency Modulation (FM) of Oscillator 1 by Oscillator 3. When an Oscillator is used as a CV source for another VCO, it is called frequency modulation. Frequency modulation effects can vary from vibrato or trill effects to clangorous inharmonic sounds to rich timbres that evoke acoustic sounds.”

it’s the ‘clangorous inharmonic’ sounds you can dial in that remind me of the ring mod effect

13

I don’t think Osc 3 can modulate itself.

14

I just picked up a VX-351 and CP-251 today from my local music store. They made a smoking deal on them for 500 USD for the pair. (NEW)
I don’t have any other foogers, but wanted them for added modulation routings and the expanded lag processing and ability to invert CV’s. I also plan to use the 351 to output to my other CV instuments. (Solina, Omni, Quartet.)
I was going to buy an OS. Then I got my fingers on the touchpad. That was all she wrote and I had to have one.

15

Yeah that touchpad does it for a lot of folks.

I think i was attracted by the bright and shiny lights! :laughing:

16

Wow, I feel stupid. I was overanalyzing the mod busses, so I forgot about the switch (I barely use it).

17

try this for starters…have only osc1 switched on in the mixer, and then flip the 3-1FM switch on with osc3 set at the same frequency and octave as osc1. sweep the osc3 wave pot and listen for ‘clangorous disharmony.’ once you find some disharmony you like, start flipping the osc3 octave switch and sweeping the osc3 frequency control.

next, try flipping the red 3KBCONT switch to disengage osc3 from the keyboard…make changes by sweeping the osc3 frequency, octave and wave controls. and the red 3FREQ switch on LOW gets you into lower frequency pulses. when in LOW range, make sure to sweep the osc3 wave control to go from sirens (triangle) to pulsing tremolo effects.

once you achieve some wacky business you’re pleased with, you can then switch osc2 on in the mixer and get a ‘normal’ keyboard note going on while osc3 does its thing to osc1. adjust osc1 level in the mix. have fun!

18

Great stuff! Thanks for the ideas. I’ll be sure to try that out.