I don’t know about the Kenton 2000, but I know on the Kenton ProSolo, you can generate an LFO that can be synced (in a number of different intervals) to MiDI time clock. A square wave LFO should work with the tap-tempo input on the Murf…
maybe this will work for you.
aye this should like a charm.. my tr-606’s 12v trigger outputs would sync up the murf to the 606 tempo when you made the trigs hit on every first bar, so that shouldnt be any different.
I read in your other post that you have a Monopoly, right?
You can sync the Murf (or anything…) to your Monopoly’s arpeggio by sending the gate out to the tap tempo input…
And vice versa, if the Murf has a clock output, you can sync the Monopoly arpeggio to it by inputing signal to the gate input. This will also work, probably, with the Kenton LFO and allow you to sync the arpeggio to MIDI.
I used to have a Monopoly, and found it’s arpeggiater very versatile and easy to interface with alot of other equipment.
I think the 606 has a Din Sync input, and there are Mini to Din Sync convertors, and probably trigger to Din Sync convertors, that you can buy.
Also there are a few Boss drum boxs that are cheaper than the 606, but with similar sounds. The DR55 and DR110. They both have more limited timing facilities… but it’s not impossible…
There are a few, even older, Korg/Univox and Roland boxes too that use trigger inputs that can be synced up as well…
I find that often times it’s better to find the less obvious, and cheaper, drum boxes for a little more unique, or less used, sounds.
But it all depends on your budget and needs.
If you have enough money, the 909 can be had at a reasonable price sometimes and it already has Midi built in. It also has a free track for Midi sequencing…
There are many upgrade units for the 606 that let you control the individual sounds and add MIDI. There’s one site in particular I remember, I’ll see if I can find it (been a couple of years). They add blue LED’s for the 606 and all kinds of cool stuff. My 606 went through them and has blue LEDs.
it’s already got din sync on it, but there are midi retrofits available; analoguesolutions.com does one. i actually ended up selling it though.. unless you wanna shell out a bunch of money to make the sounds editable (ie mod it), it’ll get old, at least it did for me.. sample and move on. i’d say get a jomox if you hadn’t already owned/sold one!
Oh yeah, I forgot, the Kenton’s already have a din sync output.
I mostly feel the same as you CTRLSHFT, I’ve owned and used a 606 and DR55 and found them both very fun, but ultimately a little limited. I also like the Jomox drumbox for it’s versatility and think it sounds great too.
Analogue Solutions, for one, have some pretty amazing mods for the 606 (and others) that really expand it’s capabilities. But I think once you spent the money for this surgery it would probably end up costing as much or more than a drum box with similar functionality built in.
Another really cool, and extremely cheap, drum box is the original Korg Electribe ER-1. Even though it’s digital and doesn’t sound as good as most analog boxes, it really is capable of a wide variety of very analog sounds, IMO. It’s also very easy to program and has MIDI built in (but no CV or trigger). You can get them for next to nothing… and I’d say it’s at least worth a try if you’re looking for programmable, editable analog drum sounds.
Finally, don’t forget about the analog synths that you may already own. Alot of synth drum sounds on alot of early electronic albums (Kraftwerk, Eno, Tangerine, Human League, Cabaret Voltaire, etc) were made not with drum boxes, but with keyboards. You can get great kicks, Toms, Snares, and everything else from many different analog synths. Then just multi-track the different sounds, or sample them and sequence the samples into beats.
I use a Korg MS20 for this purpose, and I ike the analog-style, synare/syndrum drum sounds I get off of it even better than almost any drum machine or drum synth…
If you have a synth with sample and hold, like a MicroMoog, you can also get great rhythms directly from your synth without any other external processors.
Or using the CP251’s sample and hold output (attentuated a little) sent to your synths Filter CV input. With the Resonance self oscillating the filter, the sample and hold will alternate between low kick drum sounds and bright high hat noises…
I just read the manual for the Roland MPU-101 MIDI-CV, and I found out I can convert MIDI clock to gate, with both s- and v-trig! Now I can sync the MuRF/Boss DD-20 etc. to the drummer. I do this by sending a quarter note (using Fruity Loops) on some MIDI channel to a TR-505 and play a cowbell sound out his monitor. I had been using it for syncing sequences, but this opens up a few more possiblities.
Yeah, with an MPU or Kenton, you can sync up your synths and drum boxes for very interesting analog evoloving rhythms… alot of fun…
For those with a Kenton box, there is a din-sync output to 2 aux output convertor cable that you can make, or buy, to give you additional CV control over your analog synths/drum units…
This allows you two extra CV controls in addition to CV, Gate, and Aux 1. Well worth the small fee they charge.