[MTRE] Minitaur Editor 3.2.0b10 is available !

Hello beta group,

Minitaur Editor v3.2.0b10 is now available.

This version contains many bug fixes, probably more than we can list. We are going towards a release candidate, which we hope to publish soon. This is the time to report anything unusual that you may encounter, and any issues that you think are important and which haven’t been treated yet.

Please download, install, and let us know your feedback.

Editor Download:
http://www.moogconnect.net/downloads/minitaur/Minitaur-Editor-3.2.0b10-WINDOWS.zip
http://www.moogconnect.net/downloads/minitaur/Minitaur-Editor-3.2.0b10-OSX.zip

Firmware Download (unchanged):
http://www.moogconnect.net/downloads/minitaur/Minitaur_Firmware_Beta_v2.1.14.zip

Windows Drivers Download (unchanged):
Driver v3.30.0 (Windows 7 and up): http://www.moogconnect.net/downloads/minitaur/Moog_Minitaur_USB_DriverSetup_v3.30.0.zip
Driver v2.23.0 (Vista or XP): http://www.moogconnect.net/downloads/minitaur/Moog_Minitaur_USB_DriverSetup_v2.23.0.zip

  • The driver allows DAWs to use Minitaur’s Midi ports and an Editor plug-in at the same time.

NOTES:

  • Driver and firmware weren’t changed since the last version/s, so no need to reinstall if already installed.
  • Users must first update the Minitaur firmware, and only then install the driver.
  • With the new dedicated driver for the Sub Phatty, there is no need anymore for the generic moog USB driver and it should be removed. Uninstall any existing generic moog USB driver from “Programs and Features” (Control Panel) and manually delete the files “moogusbmidi_x64.sys” and “moogusbmidiks_x64.sys” in “Windows\system32\drivers”, before continuing.
  • No driver is needed on OSX.

Updating the Firmware:

  1. Enter bootloader mode: Press and hold VCO1 Wave and VCO2 Wave switches, and while keeping them both pushed plug the power cord into your Minitaur unit. Keep holding the two switches and press the Release switch, then release all switches. You should see the Glide switch LED blinking slowly, which indicates that your Minitaur is now in bootloader mode.
  2. Connect your Minitaur to your computer using a USB cable. Please connect it directly and not using any hub. If Windows starts an automatic driver search, let it install the default drivers.
  3. Load the C6 sysex program and configure C6 midi ports so they point to Minitaur In/Out (“CONFIG”)
  4. Load the ‘Erase Firmware’ file provided in the firmware zip, into the C6 program (“LOAD”)
  5. Click SEND. VCO1 Wave switch LED should blink as the old firmware is being erased. Once completed, VCO1 Wave LED should go dark and Glide LED should keep on blinking slowly.
  6. Load the firmware sysex file into the C6 program and send it to the Minitaur (“SEND”). As the syx file is being transferred, you should be able to see the Midi LED blinking rapidly, and VCO2 Wave LED blinking slowly. Once the firmware update is completed, the Minitaur should reboot automatically. Your Minitaur is now updated with the new firmware.
  7. Run the Minitaur Editor and check for the firmware version by clicking on “Settings”. It should say 2.1.14. If it says anything other than 2.1.14, it means that the beta firmware has not been updated successfully, and you should repeat the process again from the first step.
  8. Restore settings to defaults by clicking on “Restore Default Global Settings” on the Editor’s Settings page.

Installing the driver (Windows only):

  1. Power off your Minitaur and disconnect its USB cable.
  2. If you haven’t done so already, uninstall any existing generic moog USB driver from “Programs and Features” (Control Panel), and manually delete the files “moogusbmidi_x64.sys” and “moogusbmidiks_x64.sys” from Windows\system32\drivers.
  3. If case you are also using a Sub Phatty, install its new dedicated driver, posted here:
    http://forum.moogmusic.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=25828
    Same goes for Sub 37. Use the production driver provided with the Editor 1.0.0 / Firmware 1.2.0 release package.
  4. Restart your computer.
  5. Power the Minitaur On, connect the USB cable and let Windows auto-detect and install the default Minitaur driver. This may take a few minutes so please be patient.
  6. Once detected, install the new Minitaur driver. The installer should load two popup messages, asking to confirm the new driver. Mark the checkboxes and let it complete. If asked by the installer to disconnect and reconnect the cable, please do so.
  7. Restart your computer.
  8. Check your Device Manager settings. There should be a separate entry for MTR, SPH and S37 (in case they are present is your system). The entries should appear under the root, with no exclamation mark placed on them.
  9. Open the Editor, click the Setting button and select “moog Minitaur In/Out” from the Midi Input and Output menus. To sync all preset, click the GET button.

Thanks for your cooperation !

Installation went smoothly, everything looks fine up to now.

I understand this might be a candidate release for the editor, and the firmware RC will be coming soon as well?

Not yet as there are a still a few high-level items we have to sort out. There will be a new firmware version as well.

If you are using Cubase 9.0.10 64 bit, the new editor does not work! It is loaded (vst 2.4 & VST 3), but it can not connecten to the editor although all the settings are in it! With the editor version Minitaur-Editor-3.2.0b8-WINDOWS.zip worked without problems. In the standalone version, however, it works with the new editor.

I could imagine that maybe the new plugin sentimental ligt is what’s new in Cubase 9

  • Did you upgrade your Windows version lately from 7 to 10 ? If so, would you update it with all latest updates ?
  • Can you try uninstalling and then reinstalling the Windows driver and try again ?
  • Can you try installing 3.2.0b8 and see if it really works for you, then remove and install 3.2.0b10 and see if it still doesn’t connect ?
  • Can you try resetting all settings to default and see if it connects ?

Did you upgrade your Windows version from 7 to 10?

No I did not work all the time on Windows 10 with all the updates!

Can you try uninstalling and then reinstalling the Windows driver and try again ?

Yes I have already made synonymous no success!

Can you try installing 3.2.0b8 and see if it really works for you, then remove and install 3.2.0b10?

With Version 3.2.0b8 Works VST 2.4 / VST 3 and Standalone Version!

With version 3.2.0b10 Works only standalone

Can you try resetting all settings to default and see if it connects ?

I have deleted the Minitaur editor.prefs but it did not help :frowning:

I have the latest firm and editor installed. I have tried standalone, VST, AU, VI VST versions and in all of them my LFO Rate knob no longer works.

I’m sorry I dropped out of the conversation for a while, I had also been having a preset saving issue where the HARD SYNC button would not save when triggered. I am happy to report this issue was resolved in the latest release! LFO rate knob is a big one that must be fixed before the official release. Interestingly, while the knob has no effect on the LFO rate, presets and editor type (VST, VI VST..) do.

Have checked this and it works for me. Can you please check the following:

  • Is your firmware version 2.1.14 ? you may want to reinstall it and try again.
  • Reset all MTRE settings to defaults
  • Raise your controller’s mod wheel up, or turn any of the LFO AMT knobs

Please let us know what you come up with,

Thanks.

Are you sure is not the knob in your unit which has a problem? Are you able to move the parameter with the mouse or an external controller?

I’ll try a reinstall & reset MTRE tonight and report back ASAP. I do not use a controller with a mod wheel, I use my Maschine Mikro.

Last Night
I did experience a glitch where I had to install the 2.1.14 firmware twice to get it to reboot. The first time I attempted to send the firm update the c6 window showed it loading but the Minitaur kept acting as though it were in fully erased standby mode. A few minutes later I tried to reboot the Minitaur myself while it still had the “Glide” blinking. I can’t positively say I started the whole process over with an erase command but I believe I went through steps 1-8 from your instructions.

I checked the editor as soon as the Minitaur booted up in the editor “settings” window and it did in fact list 2.1.14 as the current firmware.

The knob worked for two 2hr sessions over the last few days before I updated. With HARD SYNC the LFO rate knob and LFO VCO Pitch knob get much more attention from me.

I added nothing new to my set up during or after the update. I do have another editor running Pigtronix Echolution 2, but as stated both pieces of gear meshed perfectly for multiple sessions before update.

Reinstall firmware following the instructions provided on the first post. It’s possible that something has gone wrong during your last upgrade.

I reinstalled the firmware and also reinstalled the editor per the instructions. The issue is still there, however, I am only getting the issue in Maschine when using MIDI sync on the LFO.

I do not have this issue with standalone our in Bitwig 1 or Bitwig 2 Beta.

This issue did not exist before I updated the editor and firmware to the latest. I went back to software beta 9 and I got the same issue.

If you share the firmware files back a ways I am willing to test each one to isolate the update that caused the issue.

Thanks guys!

I am able to test in in Maschine over the weekend and post my results back, however I don’t have Bitwig

Thanks, let me see if I get you right:

  • LFO Rate physical knob works, whenever MIDI Sync is not engaged
  • LFO Rate knob in Editor GUI affects the MTR LFO Rate in all plugin formats and standalone, as long as MIDI Sync is not engaged
  • The only issue you are having is when engaging MIDI Sync

Is this all correct ?

Yes, I only have the issue when all of the following are true:

  1. Using VST or AU in Maschine
  2. LFO MIDI Sync is engaged

The behavior is that the LFO rate is stuck and can not be adjusted. I can’t tell which update the issue started because I was disengaged for a few over the holidays (sorry).

No need to test Bitwig, seems the issue is just with Maschine.

Maschine is not officially supported on this release so as long as LFO Rate control works when MIDI Sync is On on “regular” DAWs, I think we’re ok. When Sync is engaged, Rate should change the clock division based on the DAW’s tempo.

Hi,

I’m getting stuck notes when using the au editor in logic pro x! Have to restart the DAW for it to stop… Seems to happen when I change presets in the editor.

Cubase connection issues should be solved in 3.2.0b11,
will you be able to confirm ?