Moog iPhone app

in total agreement, here here E…

of course not. it is a business today. but ..
it was not always just a business, ones upon a time it was a dream of a man who took a risk to give this dream a birth.

it is a business, but business don’t produce magic. dreams do :smiley:

bob is no longer with us though. but cyril is doing a bang up job so far!!!

Veeger, i don’t want to discredit mr. Cyirl for his work, so far he has don some wonderful things.

i just thought this iphone business could be a wrong step. I see it like mixing apples and oranges. and worse,

softh synts and analog modeling are to blame for this lack of analogs in market (just look at Roland and Korg and Yamaha). way should we people use analog modeling instead of real machines ? is there something (if anything) :laughing: softsynth can do and modern analog can not ?

and about price, well if someone can buy an Iphone.. think :bulb:

But i am not running his company, so it was just my personal opinion. No need to fight :slight_smile: I’m not saying am wright and others are wrong, am simple expressing my thoughts about it.

I appolagise for being to harsh. but i’m dissapointed. sorry :blush:

oh nikola I never thought this was a fight. I think this is a great marketing move for Moog. when I get an iPad I think to get this moog app. anyhow… PEACE brotha.

peace to everyone of us !! :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

Does anyone know if you can get line level in to this and use it as a fooger type device, or is it just a cool self contained toy? Ether way Monday morning I’ll be down loading it to to my Ipad.


Dean

Soft synths are here to stay and evolve. No instrument manufacturer should hide their head in the sand. Soft synths can do plenty of things analogue can’t. Check out Native Instruments’ Reaktor. Then again, I think analogue can do things soft synths can’t. There’s room in this world for both. As I have always said, whatever the instrument, if it can make sounds, I’m interested.

I am looking forward to the iPhone app. An item like that will be a good and inexpensive way to draw attention to the Moog Music line of instruments. Having seen the company recently introduce the Taurus III, Voyager XL, and now the Slim Phatty, it doesn’t appear to me that Moog is abandoning their analogue line of instruments. As far as I can tell analogue has had a rebirth from many manufacturers in the past few years.

So don’t let the iPhone/iPad apps bother you. Rather, you should embrace them as new instruments for musical inspiration.

Why can’t we all just get along? I agree with MarkM >

Soft synths are here to stay and evolve. No instrument manufacturer should hide their head in the sand. Soft synths can do plenty of things analogue can’t. Check out Native Instruments’ Reaktor. Then again, I think analogue can do things soft synths can’t. There’s room in this world for both. As I have always said, whatever the instrument, if it can make sounds, I’m interested.

But the analog supremacists have a friend in T Bone Burnett, who says the future of music is analog:

http://mymusicthing.com/fmc-2-t-bone-burnett-vs-the-internet/

This might be out there…

In our culture, we have McDonalized everything. Heacache? Take a pill. Stomach Ache? Pepto. Weight loss? Trimspa. Need help in the bedroom? Pills. We have fast food fast cars, internet karate classes where you can get your black belt without ever entering a dojo. Our culture is so intent on being instantly gratified that it has turned into an almost permanant paradigm.

The reason why software synths have evolved is because you can get them very cheap, and most people that I know bootleg everything anyway because they don’t have 1000 dollars to spend on protools software. Anyone that is good enough on a google search can find just about any piece of software they want illegally. COmputers are also cheaper than ever before and for the first time in history, children have cell phones, and the iphones and smart phones are changing the nature of this technology before our eyes. Phones are making things such as cameras (for everyone except the professionals), netbooks, gps navigations, and those electronic books (kindles) will dissappear. I read an article about this. The market is shifting away from these devices because the consumer demand for them is being satisfied by cell phones that do all of these things. Even the ipad was designed before the I phone and apple intentionally released them knowing that it is an obsolete technology in and of itself.

So let people use softwarez all day long. Let them be content with that. Musically, alot of people can’t tell the difference anyway, and if it makes good music it is going to be a viable medium. I dont want to see companies like Moog go down because of them, but they have such a brand that if they put wooden end cheeks on a turd they would win awards.


In a lot of respects also, if everyone goes to software, then it gives us an edge for amassing hardware.

My father let me borrow his Fantom G8 for awhile, and I was experimenting at length with the various sounds and was tweaking the voyager all the while. I took a break, sat down in front of the tv and one of the first commercials that I heard I thought to myself that the quality of sounds of the instruments on the commercial wasn’t as good as what I was just messing with. Im not going to say that what I was doing was musically better, but the quality of having good hardware really makes a difference.


We are also living in a time where, since the inception of recording devices, they are more widely available and cheaper than ever before. If you can build yourself a computer for a few hundred bucks and download gobs of software, you can make cd quality music. Hell, some of the programs even play themselves when you get into sampling and all of that.

So software is here to stay, just like an artist with a number 2 pencil and a napkin can express himself is no less an artist with a platinum easel and the rarest of all colors.

Eric

I think your response is disingenuous. You know exactly what I mean, and whether you agree with the point I’m making or not, it is somewhat silly to focus on this aspect which really has nothing to do with the point you know I’m making.

I just bought this App. I like analog, I like good digital, and I like tapping on a fun App on the iPhone when stuck in a commute. Its all good. Does Moog do analog because its superior, or because its what Moog does best? There’s no supremist thinking going on, Moog is history in analog synthesis so of course Moog continue to make analog synths. For the life of me I don’t really understand where the Moog Guitar or the iPhone Filtatron fit in. In my opinion, the iPhone app is like a keyring or poster: its not a Moog but its a connection with a brand that makes you feel good. So I bought it, so sue me.

Just bought Filtatron and discovered it can be used as one vco monosynth albeit without traditional keyboard but with the XY pad or the Release knob in the vco settings to tap on and trigger notes. If you set release to on then the note will not sound indefinitely and you can use it as a more traditional synth.

And it sounds really really good! I guess this shows that if Moog wants to they can make a very convincing software emulation of the real thing, sounding better than the competition in software land. Even the dry vco sounds fat and warm and that’s fantastic. Now I hope this is the stepping stone to a fully fledged Vsti!

By the way I use it on iPad which works like a charm and the large XY pads are very convenient.

Just got the app. It’s very good and will be very useful for making music. Good job, Moog!

Dude - leave off attacking Mark. Moog is a COMPANY first and foremost. The Bob Moog foundation is something ELSE. GET IT?

WOW!!!

The good folks at Moog Music have done it again.

This is one of the coolest apps I have, and they can do so much more with it easily. They could add a murf, ring mod etc. I’m not complaining at all that these things are missing. I’m only saying this is very hip indeed. I hope they keep on developing and perfecting the app/s. As much as I love my hardware, this software is just as cool of a tool for making music. I will have to play with taking sound apps from my Iphone and running line in on my Ipad. It really is a new way of making music.

For you people out there who are hardware snobs do yourself a favor GET OVER IT. The Filtatron is a phuc load of fun. Thank you Moog.

This conclude my exuberant fanboy public service announcement.

Dean

I also found this last night. http://www.ikmultimedia.com/irig/features/ This little bit will come in handy.


Dean

is the Irig compatible with the filtatron? amos? :question:

Who sez that Moog had much involvement in the App at all? Audio DSP skills are totally unrelated to anything Moog have made so far. If I’m wrong, then I would be very pleased to be wrong. This is IMO a Moog designed and branded App, but not made by Moog.

This is one of the coolest apps I have, and they can do so much more with it easily. They could add a murf, ring mod etc. I’m not complaining at all that these things are missing.

Perhaps future apps will include these. It would be great if they could all integrate like hardware foogers.