I am curious, just got the miniature and I am reading the manual but maybe I have confused myself. If almost everything is midiable then why have cv? Does it eve differently when controlling a parameter then using midi to control the same parameter?
Cv is for connecting with purely a along gear. I would t connect with CV if midi was available, simply because I like remapping the CV inputs, and “pitch” and “gate” makeup for 50% of those opportunities.
That is where I am hung up. I am looking into a midi to cv converter but so far I haven’t gotten far enough in my comparison to see if midi will do everything cv does. I don’t mind remapping especially if it is for something I can not accomplish with midi alone. I just don’t know enough to know if having some cv along with midi would be redundant. Thanks!
it’s hard to say if “midi does everything CV does” because “what cv does” varies by each piece of gear. If you’re specifically talking about the minitaur, then yes, midi can do all of that. The reason for having both, like i said, is to incorporate gear that isn’t midi. There is also an added bonus of being able to incorporate multiple sources all feeding the minitaur. For instance, you could be sending midi notes and automations from a DAW, while you have CV coming from a sequencer that’s doing other things, or synced with other gear.
I have two minitaurs and a sub 37. I use the 4-way multiplier in the CP-251 to be able to modulate all 3 filters with the same LFO. You COULD do that with midi, if you’re clever, but not on the fly and with the flexibility that CV gives you.
Out of curiosity, why do you need a midi-to-cv converter?
i’m not sure This is what you’re asking but here I go.
I use my Sub37 midi out into a modular midi to cv converter to control my small 5U modular synth or my Oberheim SEM patch panel that does not have midi.
Got it. Makes perfect sense. I thought you were trying to use a midi to cv converter to control the Minitaur.
jsharpphoto I was under the impression cv would give me control that midi wouldn’t in the minitaur. I am quite happy to find out it doesn’t! You helped a lot thanks!
Can I ask how you like working with two minitaurs? Do you layer them together for insane fat sounds or are they doing different roles?
I use them three ways:
- Stereo bass phatness.
- Sequenced separately as unique voices by the Beatstep Pro
- Polychained to the sub37.
I am liking this Minitaur so much I was thinking of adding another but I am constantly deciding if things are to redundant do I really need it. Money gets tight so I get over protective of how I spend it. I do want a Sub37 so I am tossed up if two Minitaurs would be my direction or save and delay a sub 37 for another 4 months. 1 and 2 look like fun well 3 does also but I don’t have that yet. I think first I will learn how I want to best exploit it with a Kronos. Thanks again!
Having two is definitely a luxury. I would get the sub 37 next, and then another Minitaur, or maybe a used slim Phatty (or little Phatty)
I have the same line of thinking, that sub37 is just to damn cool. Thanks
All this talk about the Minitaur has my GAS acting up again. I already have a Sub Phatty and a Sub 37. I read somewhere that the Sub’s have the Minitaur’s oscillator core so I’m wondering if a Minitaur will bring anything more to the table. Any thoughts?
Can’t help much but wouldn’t it be nice to have another Moog voice in there! As you can ss I am happy to enable! ![]()
I believe the Minitaur/Taurus have different filters. They sound different to me, and I think it was mentioned on here before. For me, the minitaurs are just kind of a great utility to have. Paired with another moog it can be whatever you need, at any given moment.
Thanks for the advice Bertotti … Just what I need, another enabler. Glad I didn’t ask about the System 55 ![]()
Ah any of the Moog systems would go beyond my desire to enable since the value is so high, not to many will afford those.
Wanted to say that I enjoyed this thread very much! Most of my synth experience has been with Moogs & CV since about 2002. I’ve experimented with some purely electronic stuff early on, using Moogerfoogers and a Micro or Rogue. I also got into the Taurus approach, using footpedals to control a synth - first the Rogue (my stealth Taurus II), then my Tribute Little Phatty, then finally the mighty Taurus 3! Finally sold the T3 - it was just too big, heavy and cumbersome - and planning on buying a Minitaur to use with my Roland PK-5 bass pedals.
I am really a novice when it comes to MIDI. I know how to set MIDI send & receive channels, and I’ve used a Doepfer MAQ 16/3 to control my LP. When I record, I’m recording the audio to protools, I have never recorded MIDI. I guess I’ve really gone back to just controlling the Minitaur with my feet, with maybe slight adjustments by hand on the fly.
The most useful CV for me has been the really wide-ranged LFO in the MF-103 phaser. I’ve used it for drones with the LFO set really slow controlling the frequency of the synth, and on the frequency of the MF-101 Lo-Pass processing drums & bass separately (tried to do it by hand but didn’t feel like it was smooth enough).
I really don’t see myself using MIDI for anything other than controlling the Minitaur with either keyboard or bass pedals. Presets is kind of an issue - that was one really cool thing with the Taurus 3, having all that switching capability at your feet. But it took up a lot of real estate!