LP2.0 for Musikmesse?

it would, wouldn’t it? :wink:

And an even better time to post some PICTURES AND SPECS!! :open_mouth:

-bruce

Don’t count on finding out “secret” info on this message board…your better off checking some of the other synth forums out there for leaked product info. Usually from a distributor or retailer who jumps the gun. Although I really appreciate and enjoy the forum here at Moog, it is usually the last place to obtain any classified info or “spy” shots of new gear.

That is very sad I thought we were like family. :frowning:

Well even the best families like to keep some things secret and the good folks at Moog are no exception :wink: By doing some digging and probing you sometimes find out a bit more than is being offered here.
I will be waiting for the Black Stealth Moog -aka-Stage Edition LP II. It is tough waiting knowing that Moog has that Grammy Rebate deal this month and the abundance of nice deals on used LPs currently on ebay.

It will take time.

Well? Any news from Musicmesse?

Bryan

http://www.sequencer.de/events/musikmesse2008/Messe%202008%20MI/Musikmesse%2008%20MI.html

Try this link…scroll down to the pic of the little phatty with the “new” sign over it. Unfortunately no info but you can tell by looking at the top of the LP that the back panel is now black, not the best pic but the first i’ve seen on the net of the LP II

Strange, i was expecting a more radical facelift than that.

Yes, it looks like the only visual change is the back panel will be black.

Man, that was some catch and you’ve got very good eyes!

I missed that completely when I first looked at it.

Amos, we are we going to get more pics and specs?

-bruce

Hi, I assume there will be more pics soon, probably good ones after the Musikmesse is over. I think there are already some pictures here but I don’t know where they are located.

As for the specs, there is no change to the analog hardware vs. the LP Stage Edition. There is MIDI via standard DIN connectors and via USB , which is new. The specs are not final but this should offer some nice flexibility; possibly it will be able to act as a USB MIDI hub for other MIDI gear as well.

The biggest new features are software-based, and these features will also be available to all LP Stage version 1 owners as soon as the new OS is released.

I am working on debugging the arpeggiator now, and it is magnificent! Really very playable and fun. The arpeggiator has the following specs:

Patterns: UP, DOWN, ORDERED. (Random is planned but not yet implemented)
Modes: LOOP, OSCILLATE
Octaves: -3, -2, -1, 0, +1, +2, +3
Latch on/off

This provides a lot of flexibility. Here is how it works:
Modes: LOOP means that the pattern is played from beginning to end, and then again from beginning to end (equivalent to a ramp wave driving a sequencer). OSCILLATE means that the pattern is played from beginning to end, and then in reverse back to the beginning (equivalent to a triangle wave driving a sequencer).
The Octaves setting is used to repeat the pattern at sequential octaves away from the original notes; 0 plays only the original notes entered, +1 plays the original pattern and then repeats it one octave up; -2 plays the original pattern and then repeats it one octave down, then repeats it two octaves down.
So, you can get the classic “Up/Down” pattern by setting Pattern = UP, Octaves = +1, Mode = OSCIL. “Down/Up” would be Pattern = DOWN, Octaves = -1, Mode = OSCIL. However, the fact that these settings are distinct from one another means that you can get some novel patterns also; for example you can have the notes you enter play back from highest to lowest (pattern = DOWN) but repeat this downward pattern an octave higher, and then again an octave higher (Octaves = +2)… and then reverse, playing the notes low-to high but repeating at descending octaves.

Pattern = ORDER is very nice also, as it allows you to arpeggiate notes in the order you play them, for more interesting melodic phrases. This also works in OSCIL mode, so that the arpeggiator will play a phrase in the order you enter the notes, and then in reverse order.

Of course the arpeggiator will Latch, also, which means that you can lock in an arpeggiation and let it burble happily away whilst your hands are free to turn knobs. It’s really fun!

That’s all the specs I have for now… back to the testing… :slight_smile:

-Amos

PS) I think the plan is to include an all-new bank of presets with the Stage 2, including the Taurus patch collection… also, I am playing with the Glide time while the arpeggiator is running and getting some very beautiful squelchy acid sounds… you can toggle Glide on/off for some 303-like slides.

I’m actually really glad that the spec is the same as the v.1 except for the new USB functionality. Maybe i’m a little bit selfish, but i really love my LP and i was dreading a v.2 upgrade that would render the v.1 clearly inferior.

Looking forward to the new OS very much now! The arpeggiator sounds great - hope the rest of testing goes well :slight_smile:

Awesome! Thanks for the update. My wife is urging me to get a Moog synth and I think this will be it.

Bryan

That’s a keeper right there. :slight_smile:

The Taurus Teasing is killing me!

First was Moog newly registering the “Taurus” name, then last weeks “Happy Friday” Taurus Patch, and today Amos mentions a “Taurus Patch Collection” for the LP v.2…

Is something going to be unveiled at the Messe? Something to go on the rug?

/me drools on the arpeggiator specs.

Wow.

Cannot wait.

Literally cannot wait.

/me reloads forum every 15 seconds.

I assume there is also going to be a rate control? Is all of this going to be done through Advanced Presets? A way to perhaps map arp rate to something like the tune knob (dunno) or even the mod wheel would be great.

Also it could be cool if you could turn it off (non-arp) by moving it to zero.

The thing about the mod wheel though is the mod wheel is so useful you wouldn’t want to give it up, so maybe if it could take over the glide rate or just use the “Value” knob after a pair of buttons were selected at once?

I can see switching between Arp On/Off really quick would be kinda neat, though I would think doing this in performance mode with two adjacent patches would also effectively do the same thing.

Cool regardless. Thanks!

Hi Floyd; We’re not planning on a full-on Taurus re-issue at this time, but we’re kicking around some ideas. Part of the kicking-around involved me setting up an original Taurus I and designing the most accurate “clone” patches I could make for the Little Phatty. Then we decided it would be pretty cool to put these patches in the LP II factory sounds. So, nothing you can literally play with your feet at this time, although of course you could use a MIDI pedal board with your Little Phatty.

/me thinks llamastorm has spent a bit of time on IRC, yes?

About the arpeggiator, yes I forgot to mention Rate control. Here’s the plan:
The arpeggiator has a choice of one of three clock sources: Internal, LFO, and MIDI.
Separate from this is a clock divider parameter, so that for any clock source you choose you can have the arpeggiator set to play any of the following divisions: 1/32, 1/32 dot, 1/16. 1/16 dot, 1/8 (dot), 1/4 (dot), 1/2 (dot), whole note, whole + 1/4, whole + 1/2, whole + 1/2dot, two whole notes.

When the clock source is set to Internal, you can adjust the internal clock from about 20BPM to about 350BPM. While the arp is running, the LFO RATE knob controls the internal clock rate, without changing the LFO Rate. Right now the UI is not finalized but there should be a relatively simple way to toggle control between the arpeggiator clock rate and LFO rate.

Speaking of the LFO, you can use the LFO rate to drive the arpeggiator directly… in this case of course the LFO Rate knob on the panel will adjust the LFO rate and the arpeggiator rate at the same time… this also means that in this mode the arpeggiator speed will go into audio rate, for some nice Commodore-64-style bleeps and blips.

Of course if the arpeggiator clock is set to MIDI, then the arp. will follow your MIDI tempo.

All of the arpeggiator settings I have mentioned here are saved PER PATCH, so you can set up custom arps to go with your different sounds. We’re also planning an “initial clock rate” parameter, so you can save the default speed of your arp along with the other settings.

We’re also working on a feature that was requested here on the forum: tap-tempo to set the arpeggiator speed, for playing with live musicians. When we get this in place we’ll have tap-tempo for the LFO rate also, which will be nice.

There you have it; more news from the lab…

-Amos

That sounds fantastic…

and yes, lots of IRC :slight_smile:

Thats for the info!

Very nice news, Amos!
I want it, and I like it! :slight_smile:

But what about the others?
For example morphing function? :slight_smile: Or is this a future plan, 3.0. OS maybe?
Or the others are secret?

‘Ok, patience’- I always say it to me. :slight_smile:

Thank you for your works!