Individual Modules

Moog,
To kick off the new modular forum, I can’t help but ask if we can expect some individual offerings.

I’m in dire need of an inductor based 907a.


Eric

If you are in dire need why don’t you buy one ??? They are readily available from both COTK (I have one of his and it’s really nice sounding) and Synth-Werk.

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The hard part is done; engineering and documenting the modules. The last part; forcasting sales, and purchasing hard to find parts may hold them back. Purchasing components enough to complete 55, 35, and 15 systems on the books & forecasts maybe the sticky part. There is more revenue associated with finishing a module to complete a System sales than a single module sale :frowning: pure speculation, of course.

Gene said in one of the videos that there is “no limit to the amount” they can produce.

Isn’t Moog supposed to say everything is “limited production” or something to that effect?

That’s one for their marketing dep.

With the EMMS, they demonstrated that they can do whatever they want at any price point. Why not offer us some limited offerings of a few choice modules?

Bode Freq shifters would command a nice premium. The inductor based 907a is one of the Moog’s secret weapons.

Sell us a simple 2 or three osc voice. Make a limited run of filter compliments. A lot of us dreamed about owning a Moog modular and built up our systems with other manufacturers over the last decade or so. Give us a chance to get some Moog love in there. Hell, even some blank Moog panels would be nice.

Don’t just limit what excellent work is being done to only those able to cough up the $10k entry fee.

Come on, Mr. Adams! Hook us up (no pun intended)!

Would they go the same route as all the new releases 15,35.55, EM as far as every module being hand made and soldered? Or will they use SMT manufacturing like all modern Moog synths?

I’m not interested in anything but original spec.

Can I ask why that is?

Well, the modules are already designed and proven. No logical reason to change them (with some exceptions such as Alphas in lieu of Allen-Bradleys, etc).

The sound and build quality of the originals stand on their own merits.

Some customers want the original sound.

A good example is the VCA. The original was not high fidelity and actually imparted some distortion of its own. These were designed before high fidelity VCAs were available. The 902 VCA uses discrete components which are still available. Moog maintained a faithful recreation of the original. Clones may use a modern VCA for convenience (fewer parts and automated insertion) but will ultimately miss out on an important ingredient to the sound.

It is one thing for look-a-like modules, it is a whole 'nother thing whether it sounds alike.

I hope they offer individual modules at some point. I put my name on a list at Moog as soon as I saw the Emerson modular. They just put me down as wanting the filter and possibly other modules if they become available.

I would love to have the original Moog filter in my modular as it has the most amazing resonance I have ever heard. I have heard most of the MU format clones and they all sound different to my ears. I told them price was no object and I would prepay for that filter. I am sure other modules contribute to the sound, but the filter contributes the most in my opinion.

I am ecstatic that Moog made the leap into recreating the magic as faithfully as possible to the original sound. I would also like to say that I am beyond happy to see the Modular Forum officially included on the list of sub forums!

List ? What list ? How does one get onto that list ???

I think we have the same modular taste Eric… I have both of those but yes, the COTK versions. But I prefer to get and use “clones” now rather than wait for hypothetical future releases.

Fair points, although I believe that they could redesign modules for modern manufacture without compromising on sonics. Moog will certainly incorporate a top-notch interface with quality hardware. Personally I’m not after “the” classic Moog sound, but I appreciate that there are many who are. So I wish you luck and good vibes on your sonic journeys. :sunglasses:

It’s not just the sound, it’s the build quality too.

Which also means it they are easier to service. The through-hole boards are easier to service than the SMD ones.
That’s why some of the vintage units are still working…

I asked if they would sell me just the filter module and they said “No, but if we do that in the future we will put you on the interested list”. I don’t think it is a promise that it is happening, but more of a gauge of interest to sway them one way or the other when the time comes to decide if that is worth doing.

This deserves to be bumped with the hopes that Moog will still consider the option to sell individual modules instead of shuttering the modular line when the Model 10 and Vocoder are retired.

I managed to scrape up the funds for a Model 10 but there are still a couple of modules that were only available to customers if they could afford the 3C/P or the EMMS.

904B/C HPF and Coupler
905 Reverb
911a Dual Trigger Delay
912 Envelope Follower
928 Sanple and Hold
984 Matrix Mixer


I’d still like to have a 921 if not a bank of 921abb with a couple of extra vcas just to comprise a second moog voice. The Model 10 is a tone monster but just being able to swap the 907 for the 907a to free up an extra space for a second VCA would improve upon an otherwise solid configuration.

There are a lot of different suggestions that Moog could pursue:

  1. Require the purchase of a cabinet to ensure the module(s) ship with an approved power supply.
  2. Set a minumum purchase price point to justify the allocation of company resources.
  3. Keep the window of availability to two-three years consistent with some of the previous systems.



    These modules represent some of the company’s best and most iconic offerings. Please consider allowing some limited availability á la carte options for hardcore Moog enthusiasts before you retire the line.