I love Moog but [rant]

http://www.thomann.de/gr/moog_voyager_lunar_gold_limited_ed.htm

It saddens me to see this from a very well respected company with a huge legacy, that makes quality synthesizers that albeit slightly on the expensive side, they have an amazing sound.

In times of economic crisis this is stretching it, imo.

I ain’t gonna start selling my Moog gear, or stop buying it (after having conversations with some folks that feel “offended and disgusted” by the Lunar Gold edition), but the Moog name is connected with build quality, amazing sounds and inspirational interfacing with their boxes…not bling.

All this is, is of course in my opinion, and just wanted to express my feelings when I say it…as irrelevant as they may be.

I love Moog and I think Amos and co. are doing an amazing job.

That is all.

Judas priest don’t rain on the party, pal. Was it lost on you that this is their way of celebrating the 10th year of the Voyager? How many keyboards stay in production even five years? Ten years is incredible, and incredible further is these things still sell.

Sure, few people can afford a Lunar Gold Voyager. Moog has been making custom variations of Voyagers since the beginning. Gibson, Fender, and PRS have done the same with their guitars, and they have made bling pieces like the Lunar Gold Voyager. Few people can afford them too. The point is not to make products that only customers with deep pockets can afford. The point is to acknowledge that business is good, despite the lousy economy.

+1 :laughing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OHJP1BSVgM

I don’t like every model that a given car maker produces. That doesn’t preclude me from enjoying the one I like.

I don’t like everything that Moog Music makes, but I’m not expected to either.

To each his or her own.

I’m taking solace in the fact that the golden Voyager will be more expensive than a Minimoog D for a long while, hopefully, making the latter still affordable for all those who dream of owning one. :mrgreen:

Yeah but that gold makes it sound phatter, so I can see why someone might be disgusted. I am throwing out my Taurus 3 pedals in protest.

[edit]The Taurus 3 pedals were too heavy to throw so I’m keeping them, purely to save my back of course.[/edit]

Fair enough. The Voyager anniversary is not lost on me. Its just lost on me to see a relatively small(?) company, to make such a product.

I am not saying I am “right”, just saying that it does not look “right” to me. Too much bling…but then again I am biased as I am not rich, nor wealthy, although I am not complaining.
I consider my self among the lucky ones to afford a small studio and have time to make music.

Point taken about the expensive guitars though, I did not think about that and to be completely honest, you are right.

I can understand what you’re saying, but no-one forces us to buy anything. i don’t take it as a “luxury show-off” by Moog music and even, it is their right to do it, if they want to.

There is law of marketing that says “design a top quality product and attach a high price - the people will still buy it, as a represent of quality and status”.
I know this is not apply in our country these days. (are you from Greece too, right?) but still it’s valid.

And even, judging by the recent products like mintaur and the subphatty, they are keen on the inexpensive products side - O.K., they are not MS20mini yet :stuck_out_tongue: but that’s another company of bigger size and their size allows them to do such as this (and it’s curious Korg didn’t that earlier).
And believe me, that subphatty sounds freakin’ good and it’s a big f****n’ drool!!!
is that I’m covered in the mono synth / modular territory and another mono synth is not a big necessity right now

In the US, we have a new saying for this kind of feeling:

“First world problem”

Best example of this, ever.

:mrgreen:

Thanks for that video , I have this conversation everyday with my son and

also with some of the young and old complainers I work with that don’t realize what they have now. :laughing:

Yes, it’s somehow comforting to hear that outside of my head too :slight_smile:

Agreed that no one forces me to buy it, I never said that.

I am from Greece as well and I am glad I am able to afford my simple lifestyle and pay the rent/taxes/power/bills.
And yes Moog is keen on relatively inexpensive synths, and I appreciate that and own/love the Slim and Minitaur.

Diamonds & Rust, Louis CK, cup of tea… Off to deuce, then play mi standard Moog gear. I’m happy.

I just thought that thing was HILARIOUS. Not offensive.

I thought it was a horrible implementation that was comical in its awfulness. :laughing:

It’s looking pretty cool from where I’m standing :smiley:


Seriously, I heard they sold all 30 within 15 minutes of making them available. Seems like a great way for the folks at moog to raise funds for developing other products, IMHO. And if you’re a Saudi Prince who loves synthesizers, it’s the perfect thing!

Rare thing, but the feel is greatly honored, i think rarest of rare…

To me, MC’s guitar analogy is spot-on: Gibson and Fender routinely make limited, collectible versions of their instruments, often in the form of reissues of things like Jimmy Page’s Les Paul or Clapton’s favorite Strat or whatever. These instruments carry hefty price tags and are almost never bought by working musicians. I worked in music retail for 5 years back in the '90s and sold several of these kind of guitars to a wealthy collector who happened to be an attorney. I don’t know what they cost Moog to make, gold certainly isn’t cheap these days but if they were able to net a decent profit, then great for them! More money for R&D, for their excellent staff and a chance to experiment in the workshop with different materials…I’d love to see them make that aluminum (or was it stainless steel?) Voyager available!

I realize the the OP may not have English as a first language, though the title is a bit off. To say the word ‘but’ actually negates everything that comes before it.

“I love Moog but…” actually means I love Moog but I don’t really.

Stephen




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That’s a very odd statement to make, because no, it doesn’t.

Speaking as someone with English as my first language (and with a Master’s Degree in Literature, for that matter), when someone says “I love X, but…” they generally mean exactly what the original post said, that their love is compromised or thrown into question by some event or situation. Exactly how much it’s compromised or thrown into question can vary - but the important point is that it’s a matter of degree, not an absolute. This is normal English useage. It’s also what the OP actually says.