Anyone heard anything about this pigtronix mothership guitar synth? Apparently its something like the freqbox…vco that tracks pitch…looks like they added portamento to it though and also some sort of “intelligent” ring modulator that also tracks pitch. Sounds pretty cool in the demos on harmony-central’s namm 08 videos. What do you guys think? Personally I’ve never tried any of their stuff but this looks pretty interesting. Here’s a link to the pics: http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/2008/01/namm-pigtronix-mothership-analog.html
Ask eeg 
check out the video here —>http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM08/ just scroll down the video toolbar until you find pigtronix
it seems like what one failed to cover the other picked up on
Mothership has portamento and suboctave, but only has to wave forms and no modulation otherthan the pitch bend
but the FreqBox has continuous wave form adjustment, FM, an envelope, and many more possible control options, but lacks portamento and sub octave (which can be an easy fix since there are 4 billion octave pedals out there for pretty cheap)
as far as the “intelligent Ringmod” i wasnt too impressed. i like my ring mods to sound like they were held back a few grades.
since i have yet to personally play either of them my opinion is based only on demo videos, im going to have to put my money on the FreqBox
It will be awesome…haha
Yeah, the freqbox and the mothership are very different beasts that fulfill different needs…
…personally I think the mothership sounds way more awesome then any demos I have heard of the freqbox…but maybe i’m just biased 
both look nice.
what is the pricetag going to be on the mothership?
we might have to wait and see about that since I am not in charge of price points…but we are working out some additional knobs not seen in the prototype pictures
More knobs are always a good thing.
Man, the Pigtronix stuff looks ugly. I can’t bring myself to use equipment that looks that ugly.
wow, that thing is sweeet!
and come one, it’s what you do with it.
i got rid of my moog stuff, cause it looked too pretty.
If its P-Funk’s Mothership…I think they already have a Moog on it!
and I think Herbie has one on his ship too so…
…just as long as you don’t make fun of the circuits boards…
shot in the dark here… but im guessing you work for pigtronix? lol
PS i the attack sustain is awesome
Hey - I didn’t know eeg worked on the Pigtronix stuff - cool. I’ve been carefully watching those boxes and although at first didn’t like gimmick it’s growing on me I really like the electro-harmonix-style knobs though…at least they look like them…I assume they feel like them too. I will say the external design (knob layout, switch style and paint, etc. look really nice.)
i think the portamento on the mothership is really going to be the key to getting a true synth-style sound out of the guitar. personally i love the freqbox but to me it sounds more like a really wicked, insane fuzz than a synth. Anyway, cant wait for the mothership…hopefully it’s not as expensive as the new moog multi-pedal!!! That thing is freaking ridiculously expensive for what it does!!
Whoa. I gotta say, the mothership sounds killer. Redeye is right, the portamento… That’s the synthy kicker. The ultimate pedal would be some combination of the two. Mothership with sync and fm sounds. I have synths and guitars, but if I was trying to make a guitar sound like a synth, I think I’d go for the mothership. Portamento on a guitar is worth the price of admission. Then - of course - you run that through the mf-101 with some resonance.
with the lag processor on the cp-251 you can get portamento going on the 107. i haven’t tried that yet with an audio signal, only the Pitch CV coming out of the voyager to control 107 pitch, but it might be worth a try, i’ve gotten some great tb303-type acid leads using the voyager’s ADSRs/audio in/amp section in conjunction w/ 101/107 (ie, only the 107 osc and 101 filtering, no voyager filter or vcos).
You could get portamento going into the FreqBox CV input, but unfortunately not the audio input. If you ran the audio signal into the Lag processor then the FreqBox audio in the Lag processor would simply muffle the sound of the original audio signal (like a Low-Pass Filter). The FreqBox uses the audio source to reset/sync its internal oscillator, it never converts the incoming audio to a control voltage - which is what would be necessary to achieve portamento using analog circuitry. These Pitch-to-CV converters are somewhat hard to come by and I’ve heard that they are not very accurate (Analogue Systems makes one - though I’ve never used it).
i guess i don’t really see what the point of glide would be w/ when using the audio input though.. the vco is just going to try to hard sync to the input source, and if the input source is guitar, then play legato riffs and there ya go, portamento. tweaking with the envelope will definitely get you there too even if you’re playing more staccato with whatever instrument is coming in.
That was your point, right?
Actually, neither of these will sound like portamento.
how do you figure it won’t? portamento is going between two notes without the individual sounding of the ones inbetween; the more portamento, the more time it takes for it to go from note A to note B, hence creating a more pronounced glide sound. your playing determines how much glide there is with the 107. it would be nice to have real control over portamento on the audio in of the 107, but i don’t think it’s all that necessary.