Is anyone using the Eventide Space Pedal ? I was thinking about getting the H90 although it seems thier backordered and would be three months before they were available I considered the Eventide Space but was wondering if anyone had experience with one and possibly the pros and cons. Thanks
I have been looking at the Eventide pedals for a while and just ordered the H9. I have been in the Strymon camp for a while and have three of their pedals. The Eventide H9 is kind of at “end of life” but (as I understand it) has the same algorithms as the Space and 3 others (modfactor, timefactor, and pitchfactor). At $100 more than Space by itself, it seems like a reasonable upgrade, although I suppose the lack of external physical inputs might be a detractor. The H90 does seem appealing (kind of 2 H9’s with more physical controls), but its lack of availability and relatively higher price is less great.
All that to say, in theory, I should be able to provide a data point on Eventide Space (via H9) in the near future. In other words, this really isn’t answer to your question. But I hope to be able to kind of answer soon!!
I wasn’t sure if it would be better to get an eventide space and a Roland space echo RE202 instead of a H90 . I like the knob per function approach. I initially thought about getting a H90 to use with my OBX8 although I have a sequential pro3 and thought it would benefit from a Space Echo as well. I’m using the RE201 space echo with a Moog Voyager. I’ve heard the eventide space has a nice selection of reverbs and other effects. The Roland RE202 has some new features. I know the H90 has dual stereo inputs and outs although I’m not sure if it would be better to get two sperate effects pedals instead of the H90. The H90 is very expensive . I don’t like running apps with effects either. I just wonder if the two effects pedals would be better than just the H90. Interested in what others might think thanks
What are the Strymon pedals like ?
As with all of these types of things, I suppose it is quite subjective. I really like them. I have my Prophet 6 “permanently” routed through the Mobius and BigSky. It makes for a big rich sound that I am very happy with. When recording a song, I use less of them since it results in adding a lot of signal to a lot of the frequency range. I also have the timeline (delay/echo), which I have used much less … until I got the Model D. I have the Model D running through the timeline and it sounds pretty wonderful with a lot of different settings. It might be the nature of echo/delay effects that just work well with a mono synth (or maybe I simply don’t know what I’m doing … quite likely).
I think you’re right. A mono synth sounds great with reverb ,echo and delay effects as long as thier used with discretion and taste. I ordered that eventide space so I’ll see how that works with the Oberhiem OBX8. Sometimes the patches on the OBX8 have so much character that it sounds like it has effects already. I use that Roland RE201 with my voyager and the space echo gives it just the right amount of presence that it really enhances the sound. A vintage RE 201 space echo would be out of the question due to the cost and the obvious maintenance issues. That new Roland RE202 space echo
Utilizes the sound of four tape heads and also lets you select wow and flutter and also the sound of a new or old tapes which capture the sound artifacts of tape. The vintage Roland tape echos had a preamp that also added to the color of your sound. There’s nothing like the real thing but I have to be practical. I prefer analog synths and even analog recording but digtal is here to stay and has advantages that recording to tape doesn’t. On the other hand analog recording has a wider bandwidth and doesn’t distort like digtal does , has natural compression and acts like limiting.
The downside is the inherent noise that’s added with analog recording . Also there are less companies that make analog
Tape. I once considered getting a 24 track multitrack recorder used. I believe they were 2 inch tape. Those studers were real nice and expensive . The other issue you had to be concerned with were how much life the tape heads had left.
I remember Otari and MCI 24 track multitrack recorders. They suffered from the same problems with maintenance
That the RE201 space echos did. They all sounded really good if you had everything up to spec. So many recordings were done on analog in the 70s.
I have a space, and a timefactor. I like them both, and prefer their’s to the interface on the H9.
I was interested in the time factor. Isn’t that pedal mostly delays?
Why do you prefer thier interface better than the H90? Thanks
Sorry meant H9 instead of H90
More knobs for immediate control with no menu diving
I use them each on different signal chains, haven’t tried combining them I guess you could though. They’re each pretty versatile.
I just got my eventide space today and hooked it up to the voyager that had the Roland RE201 Space Echo connected to it before.I don’t run multiple pedals into each other like some guitarists do. That space is pretty deep . I notice it doesn’t take much before you can get lost in a wall of sound. Best to have discretion when tweaking knobs. Less is more when it comes to effects. What do you think of that Eventide Timeline ? My goal is to have decent effects on all my analog synths. I’m going to get one more pedal I’ve considered the RE202 or the timeline. I should probably get the timeline being I already have the RE201. I know how to operate the RE201 and it’s laid out differently than the space . I’m still trying to learn what everything does. I wish the space had a dedicated volume knob. I read you can set different volume settings for each preset. I don’t really know how to navigate the space yet. It seems pretty deep.
How do you think the eventide time factor compares to the strymon timeline?
I saw a review comparing the timefactor to the timeline. While both pedals were considered good they preferred the timeline since it had more presets, liked the algorithms better and the cost was less. It seems eventide and strymon are two major players in the game so to speak at least that’s what I see being used the most although there are other choices as well. But for the more expensive pedals they seem to be rivals. There’s so many pedals being offered it would seem hard to keep current with all of them. My application is simply to use it with synths . Many of these pedals are focused with guitar players in mind even though they can be used with line level instruments as well.
I read about the Mobius vs the timeline saying the timeline was more versatile. I would think the Mobius would compete with the eventide mod factor. Sometimes I wonder how many of these effects overlap in a company’s offerings.
Can’t say: I’ve never tried the Strymon. I’ve heard they make great stuff too, though!
I’m seriously considering the Strymon timeline since the eventide time factor costs more, it’s all expensive. This way I’ll have a dedicated tape echo in the Roland RE201 Space Echo . Echo , Delay, Reverb. In the eventide space I’ll have dedicated reverbs plus other effects. And with the Strymon Timeline a dedicated delay . They may overlap a little but they all have their own take on reverb ,delay and echo.. I would run the Eventide Space on the Oberhiem OBX8 and the Strymon Time line on the Moog Voyager and the Roland RE201 SPACE Echo on the Sequential Pro3. On Mono synths I like delay and reverb. On a polyphonic synth I try not to affect the sound to much sense it can sound like it has effects already without to much enhancement from a pedal. Right now I’m running the Eventide Space with the voyager.
VCO - I think you would like the Strymon Timeline for that purpose. I think I mentioned it earlier on this thread or another that I have been using the Timeline with the Model D, and it is pretty fantastic. And just this morning, I was able to start playing with the new Eventide H9. I haven’t been able to compare a lot with the existing Strymon pedals I have, but the one thing that immediately seems to stand out to me is that it is “different” than those pedals. And that fact is a really nice surprise. I kind of expected a lot of similarity, but that is not the case. I’m sure it is possible to find settings between all the pedals that “sound similar” but all of them seem to bring something new to the table and those new things are quite beautiful.
And to mention the obvious, the H9 is definitely not as great in terms of usability on the device itself because of the limited physical controls. The dedicated Eventide devices (e.g., Space) will be much better in that aspect. And the H90 as well (plus the fact that it can run 2 effects). But for my use case, I think the H9 is going to be perfect. It will likely live behind one synth most of the time and I will probably settle on 10-15 presets that I really like and be able to dial through those with the wheel easily. And the iPhone app makes the H9 super accessible. I absolutely do not like firing up the laptop when “jamming” on the hardware synths. But opening an app on my phone to flip through settings/presets/algorithms on the H9 is not too terrible.
There is someone on the Sequential forums asking very similar questions. Is seqpro3 your user on that forum VCO? If not, then you should go follow your twin on that forum and some of the discussion there will be useful to you.
Yes that’s me on the Sequential/Oberhiem forum. I like the interface on the Space. I almost decided to go with the H90 but decided against it since they were back ordered and would take three months before they shipped. They were also expensive. I’m sure thier great. I decided to go with the idea of having a dedicated unit on each of my three analog synths. That is cool the H90 runs two effects at once. I think that’s it’s very easy to overuse effects . That might occur
More often with the H90 since there’s so much that’s offered. I guess it depends on how a person chooses to use it. I like to keep effects simple. I think that timeline would work well in my application. How do you think the Timeline is different?
I haven’t used the H9 enough yet to identify “what” is different. It’s mostly just that I can hear that each of the settings (patches) I’ve played with sound unique in some way from the Strymon ones (whether reverb or delay etc.) I’m not very good at describing sounds and why I like one thing better than another.