I just searched the forum for info on KE’s Hoedown patch, but didn’t find out what I was looking for. Does anyone know if that sound can be replicated on a Voyager? I’ve messed around with mine trying to modulate osc 3’s pitch via the filter envelope, but I’ve not been too successful. It may not even be possible on the Voyager but I thought you guys would know.
I just saw the Keith Emerson Band in Annapolis a few weeks ago. He actually played that sound from a Korg Oasys, but I suppose that could have been a sample playback.
I was at the KE show in Annapolis, too (seat 505). Cool to see Emo playing live - and with the Moog Modular, too! After the show, I got Keith’s signature on my 1992 ELP tour book, along with a photo of myself and Keith. Nice chap! Hopefully you were able to stick around after the show and get your own souvenir(s).
Although I’ve never tried to program the Hoedown sound on the Vger, it seems like it should be possible using the filter envelope to modulate the pitch of the oscillators. I’ll definately give it a go to find out.
AFAIK, no one has posted the Hoedown patch on the SquareWave site, so that could mean that it’s simply not possible with the Vger, but then again, maybe no one has ever tried.
I was also at the Annapolis KE show, great fun . Seat 504. I meant to take something with me for Keith to sign, but ran out the door without it, so had to settle for him signing my ticket stub. Oh well will look pretty cool in the frame with the photo of he and I. It was a great few days, Rick Wakeman on the 17th and Keith Emerson on the 20th : ).
The Hoedown patch was done on the Modular Moog, a stock Mini can’t do it.
I programmed one on the Voyager a while back that’s kind of close . I’ll have to dig it up and tweak it at some point when things slow down here at bit.
I also did one on my Roland D50 awhile back and the DX7.
As you can hear, the sweep of the modulated osc’s pitch doesn’t rise high enough or fall low enough to be terribly convincing. Again, it may not be possible to do on a Voyager but if anyone has any input, I’m all ears.
On the same subject, do any of you guys have the Arturia Moog Modular or are fortunate enough to have experience with a real Modular?
Was impressed with your Voyager ‘Hoedown’ Patch. The sound would be sufficiently convincing in a live situation (ELP fans would recognize it in a heartbeat). Please consider posting the patch on the SquareWave site. This will allow others to hear what you’ve done on their own Voyagers and possibly tweak/reprogram it to something a bit closer to the real thing.
I have the Arturia Modular software and all of the sound banks from the Arturia web site (registered users only). Unfortunately, there isn’t a Hoedown patch listed among them, nor anything with a related name. A few patches are similar in sound, chief among them a patch called Nu_Vacuumer (N.Ubutake/Lead/NU_Vacuumer). The patch has same frequency up-sweep and key release as Hoedown, but not the right sound. The speed of the up-sweep is wrong, too, but it could be a reasonable starting point to get the Hoedown sound.
The Arturia Modular seems a fairly accurate representation of the real thing, and has a few ‘convenience’ features (i.e. not authentic) to make programming easier. For many of us, however, it’s the closest we will ever come to owning a modular in our lifetimes IMO, and I highly recommend this software to anyone with an interest in modular synths (and a fairly speedy computer). You can download a demo copy from the Arturia web site.
Was there something specific about the Arturia Modular software you were looking for?
That’s pretty close, as Greg said any ELP fan would recognize it right away. If you listen to some of the 1990’s ELP recordings KE’s isn’t exactly like the “original” . Good job
Thanks for the positive responses. I’ll be happy to post the patch to SquareWave if I can figure out how to do it. Do I need that Moog software editor or do we just post knob and switch settings? I’m a newbie on these forums so any help is appreciated.
I forget that new people show upon these forums all the time, and so may not be familiar with the SquareWave site. SquareWave was started last Spetember to give Voyager owners a place to exchange patches and organize/consolidate Voyager-related information. SquareWave is a Yahoo Groups site, so you need to have a Yahoo account (free) in order to access the files and information on SquareWave. Here’s the address:
SquareWave currently has over 400 members and over 200 Voyager patches that were posted by members. Nearly all of the Voyager patches are SysEx files, so you don’t need the Editor to audition them, just a SysEx program like MIDI-OX (PC) or SysEx Librarian (MAC) to transfer them to the Voyager.
To add your patch to SquareWave, first turn it into a SysEx sound file using the Voyager’s ‘Send Panel Sound’ command (Master menu 3.1). Then go to SquareWave, log in and navigate to the Voyager Patches folder. Create a folder for yourself, then add (upload) your patch.
There’s a good bit of information on SquareWave - the best way to find stuff is to download the Site Map in the Files folder. This PDF file will show you where everything is located.
Sorry for the delayed post. I downloaded and (briefly) checked out the patch - very nice indeed! Given the hardware limitations, you may have wrung out all that’s possible recreating this classic patch on the Voyager.
I’d suggest that you try the Arturia Moog Modular software to design something closer. AFAIK, there isn’t a Hoedown patch available for it yet - you could be the first!
Nice to have you on SquareWave, too! Hope you find it a valuable resource.
FWIW, that “Nu_Vacuumer” patch is probably a variation of the “hoover” (get it?) patch made famous by the Roland Juno1/2/mks-50. It has that same rising pitch as the Hoedown patch.
I don’t have the Arturia patch mentioned above, so I don’t know if this is how it was done on that one. But for anyone with the Arturia synth:
Try using the trigger delay linked to an envelope shaper, and patch the envelope shaper to one of the oscillator mods. Link the trigger to keyboard trigger on. That gives the delay and then the rising pitch.
. Seat 504. I meant to take something with me for Keith to sign, but ran out the door without it, so had to settle for him signing my ticket stub. Oh well will look pretty cool in the frame with the photo of he and I. It was a great few days, Rick Wakeman on the 17th and Keith Emerson on the 20th : ).