I’m toying around with the passing trend that is Dubstep.
As far as electronic fads go, it’s the first one I’ve liked in about 20 years, it’s simple, fun and draws equally from dub and techno.
I would of course prefer to do this sound using the Voyager. I’ve been playing with the Voyager and the Vx-351 trying to get the sound. But getting the timing of the “wobble” right has proven tricky.
I’ve patched the Mod wheel to the LFO rate.
I’ve patched the LFO Triangle to the Filter.
I’ve Set the filter to about 10 o’clock (step 78 according to the editor)
I’ve set the LFO to sync to “off/sync”
I’ve set the LFO to .2.
Using something like the “Speaker Danger” patch, this about as close as I can come with about 20 minutes of fiddling.
I would like to figure out how to set a lower ceiling on the LFO, so it can not go too fast. I’d also like to find a way to ramp up the LFO faster with using the Mod Wheel.
It would be good to be able to go from off to 25% to 50% to 100% or something like that.
In a perfect world I could sync the LFO in time with MIDI and set a low ceiling on the LFO and adjust the ramp steepness to my needs. I can’t find a way to do this. The LFO seems reasonable when synced to MIDI until I start my DAW, then it goes through the roof.
The Voyagers LFO is not syncing in speed to the midi clock due to its all analogue nature.
The LFO sync found on the Voyager is syncing the waveshape to midi. That is starting the waveform again when the syncing clock tells so.
Thanks Till, I had run across this in the manual. The second to last paragraph on pg 53 has instructions, and I sort of tried it last night, but it was late and I was burnt. I’ll try again today.
So if true or even approximate MIDI tempo sync of the LFO is not possible, can someone recommend ways to control the speed/ramp of the LFO and mod wheel to achieve the sound am I after?
for playability id put lfo speed on mod wheel and mod amount on aftertouch.
the sound in your clip is more 2 pole than 4 pole so switch to that in the menu and add some resonance.
turn off osc2 and osc3; youd want the wobble to come from your lfo and not the oscillators phasing and overdrive it a bit with the headphone → audio in trick (remember to use a stereo cable or youd might end up like me with your moog at repair guy’s for a couple of month and lots of time to write posts like this)
Thanks for the reply Peter.
Your suggestion prompted me to assign the filter to aftertouch, which might work out well, as syncing the LFO speed to tempo is just too much of a pain.
I’ve seen a hundred posts referencing overdrive tricks. Most of the responses saying something like "This has been discussed here a thousand times. Do a search for “filter, overdrive”.
I do that search and get the same thousand posts telling me to do a search for those words.
I think I am asking if someone would be so kind as to point me in the direction to the most definitive posts on the Voyager overdrive topic.
I know there is the Model D vs Voyager filter/overdrive debate. It would be nice if all the best tips and tricks were pulled into a single sticky thread.
Peter,
so just patch a single balanced 1/4" TRS cable from the headphone to audio in? How did you Mess your voyager up? What did you do wrong?
I’ve read at least one other suggestion on how to do this, which I believe involved patching one side of the output into the input.
From “Solderman” on the Vintage Synth forum:
“What works best for me is feeding the left output back into the external in and only take the right output as mono, then carefully adjust the ext. input level so it doesn’t cause self-oscillation on its own, and adjust spacing to reduce or remove any phase cancellations. The latter adjustment is often tedious and fussy. This doesn’t create overdrive, just sounds somewhat fatter, and not like a MiniD does with its feedback trick.
FWIW, if I boost the signal at the Mix Insert path just before it returns to the Moog, I can overdrive the filter satisfactorially. But then I can hear the oscillators bleeding through to the main outs somewhat, and it’s not nearly the overdrive the LP gives, so it’s not a complete solution, by far.”
yes.
i didnt do anything “wrong”. i had a mono cable always in the headphone out for quick use not knowing this put some strain on an IC which after some years died. theyve changed the circuitry so should be ok with anything but why risk it.
I just joined this forum, I 've had a voyager for about a year. I’m right into drum and bass so a wobble bassline is something that I’ve been trying to do. I used to have a Roland juno 106, which really did that easily. I would say that’s not the voyagers specialty, heres a dnb tune though I’m working on.