I am going to experiment with using my Slim Phattys as percussion, triggered by drum pads. Does anyone know what the drum pad is that they use in some of the Moog Sound Lab videos (like the Antlers session, among others)?
Hey man. The comments for each video tell you what is used. For The Antlers:
Michael Lerner uses 3 Minimoog Voyager Rack Mount Editions to create a dark electronic drum kit. He plays the Trap-Kat to trigger each sound.
I hope this helps.
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Ah, cool - never noticed that!
Thanks for the info…
(“3 Minimoog Voyager Rack Mount Editions”…!!! Now that there’s a 'spensive drum kit!)
Hey There,
Sounds like an awesome plan - I love the drum style of some of those soundlab gigs!
I was actually just wondering - and it may relate to your percussion idea - can the first LP (St. II) of a poly chain accept polyphonic midi into it and distribute the notes between the following SP’s?
Actually I guess it only relates to your percussion idea if you ran the trapkat into the moogs setup in the poly chain for some reason, I guess I’m just unsure of how the trapkat uses midi or maybe CV’s..
I also have a Phatty Poly Chain (1xLP St. II & 2xSP) and I was wondering about controlling the chain polyphonically with a midi pickup for guitar/bass. I just don’t have another controller handy to give it a shot, have you ever tried sending polyphonic midi from another keyboard (like your voyager) into the poly chain through the LP?
Sorry if I’m hijacking the thread too much! 
Regards,
David Smyth
NZ
I want to know the acoustic drum sound in the Junip clip. It definitely compressed, but sounds like maybe there is some effect on it. Anyone care to speculate.
No worries, hijack away – my question was answered already! 
I have never tried what you describe, so I’m afraid I don’t know the answer. I think it would be possible though…but my knowledge of MIDI is pretty lacking. My friend has the Vermona drum machine, which is what made me want to set up my Phattys as percussion, especially since I am currently focusing my attention on my new Voyager. I just need to save up another $10K or so and make it polyphonic! 
…seriously though, it’s been uttered many a time, but it would be the dog’s bollocks if Moog released a multi-voice add-on bank for the Voyager. I’d think that by removing any external controls/displays, they could bring the costs down into the sub-mortgage zone. I believe this was basically what the DSI Poly Evolver Module was, if i’m not mistaken.
For drums or any multitimbral work, I would set each phatty to a different midi channel (and probably use a midi splitter/thru box). If set up physically in a poly/thru chain, turn poly mode off, midi merge on, and midi out channel off or at least not to one of the channels a phatty’s midi in is set to down the chain.
I was going to say exactly what he said, only in a much less coherent sentence!
I’m currently using a drum pad to control my Slim Phatty (Akai MPC 1000) and it’s pretty interesting, but I don’t have a polychain setup to test it on! D:
I agree it would be cool if they made cheaper Voyager expanders with no controls.. But in that respect I guess I’m happy with chaining Slim Phattys to my Little Phatty for that type of thing (I also like tweaking different units etc.).
If it’s not too difficult (and the right gear is close enough together), do you think you’d be able to try and control your phatty chain polyphonically from an external keyboard into the first phatty? If it’s too much hassle don’t worry about it, but if it’s easy enough, I’d be interested to know if this works for sure..
Regards,
David Smyth
NZ
Sorry…I had subscription turned off for this thread and just saw your post. Yeah, I can try that pretty soon (not at home now). I’m almost positive that it would work, assuming all the MIDI settings were correct…
Cool! That would be awesome! 
Regards,
David Smyth
NZ
If you can produce a loud enough, sharp attack via audio, you can kick a Gate into the Phatty KB Gate input. Not sure what type of sound pad you have or what sound source (if any) it’s connected to?
Some of the pads have a simple piezo element (like Roland Vdrums) and I picked up a set of inexpensive pads (the older style) for something like 2 for $55 or around $40 for a dual trigger pad and connected it up to my old school Roland Octapad some years ago.
Another good approach is the Alesis DM5 module which has very very good sensitivity controls and can easily be configured to send Midi notes to the synth of your choice. They are very much non-preferred these days (and therefore $200) since everybody wants sampled drums or the newer drum modules. Or DIY, as I mentioned, just take a super loud output and it should be able to kick a gate. Use a voltmeter to see how much current it’s pushing.
A guy on Muffwigglers posted a sample that is ideal for gates on modular synth so I would expect it to work for Phatty as well. If I can dig it up I’ll edit this response.
Yamaha DD-xx series have MIDI IN and OUT DIN’s. 
I have a modified DD-50 I am turning into a drum brain, and am building my own triggers for it.
Polyphony aside, the most fun ‘drum pad’ for triggering a Phatty is this. It will trigger, play pitch and modulate filter at a scaling and sensitivity of your choice. It’s also very noisy
How do you hook that up to the phatty? The ones I’ve seen on E-bay all have a a odd ( by modern standards) connecter.
Thanks Dean
That “odd connecter” is a Cinch-Jones. That was for the gate, I believe, of the old Moog gear. There should also be a 1/4" plug in addition to the Cinch-Jones plug.
The strange 6 prong connector is the standard Moog accessory connector. Plugs into a Minimoog to give power to the 1130. Out of this connector are also two leads with standard quarter inch TS plugs for two CV’s and a third for S-trig (using a cinch-jones connector). I added a V-trig to the harness to trigger LP or OS. When plugged into the minimoog, the power tapped from it is only 10 volts and it requires the minimoog to be turned on. So , instead, I power the unit from a custom made power supply (for a modular) with -15 and +15 volts supply, giving the CV’s an increase of voltage of 50 percent. It plays better this way. 
With a CP-251, you can also mult and modulate the volume as well. But my favorite trick is to use the LFO of the CP-251 for a full panning effect on the Voyager OS.
Do you need to convert the Cinch-Jones connector to a 1/4"? If this is that ez to get a Moog drum I might buy a SP. I know why don’t I just use a drumkat and a SP? Well, Because that not the same. Cool that’s all it took i’ve just convinced myself I need a couple of the Moog drums and a couple SPs. Man that was ez.
Thanks for the answers guys. I’m intrigued.
I use the drum for a of S+H type of sound on the filter, except more controlled, so jumping the filter cutoff around according to how hard you hit it, with a quiet drone on the oscs. Or using a cp-251 can really multiply the options. To me it was difficult to get good drum sounds on the model D, but mix a little noise and LFO in with the drum voltages, along with a snare going through a mf-101, and a bass oscillator gated by the kick drum and you got a sick electronic /acoustic kit. I learned the osc gate thing (using a noise gate), which was a trick used by studio engineers to get a tb-303 type sound by using the test oscillator on the mixing console at 100 hz, and gating it with the kick drum. I tried it with a voyager, but it didn’t sound nearly as good as a sawtooth on the model D at about 50 hz or F#/G. If you mix the osc in just enough (even on an acoustic kit), it just sounds very natural, like a super fat kick drum sound.