Discontinuation of MF-107 and MF-105m

I just read that Moog was DC the MF-107 and MF-105M. That’s a shame, the 105M is a classic pedal.

I’m really hoping they fix the editor and plugin before they totally drop it. I have been waiting to be able to save presets for some time now. Sound tower continuously insisits that the app does save, and yet it doesn’t on my computer. Glad to see the firmware was fixed!!

PLEASE MOOG, have the bugs removed before dropping it, so it can remain an awesome piece of gear.

I’m glad I got my hands on my white MidiMURF when I did (very recently)! The Freqbox never found a place in my setup, though - although it’s been something I’d kept my eyes out for in case I ran across a deal…

Is anyone else a little surprised that these are the pedals they’re discontinuing? I kinda figured it would be the Clusterflux or Delays since the BBD chips seemed to be originally presented as far more limited. Any thoughts on what they’ll be coming out with next to replace these guys in the line up?

The 107 make sense to me. Introduce a 107M. we will see.

I’m only for discontinuing the MF-105M if there is an evolution on the design in the works.

The Minifoogers don’t do it for me. If Moog Music is headed on a runaway money making train with those wimpy lil pedals good for them, but hopefully they won’t forget what laid the sonic foundation for them. It was the Moogerfoogers and their mystical modular design. I still want to see a MF-103M, a MF-102M and a MF-101M.

It would be great if they could make 105M pattern presets saveable on the computer. But I was wondering: if the pedals are discontinued, do you have to hang on to the same computer forever to edit the patterns? Does the pattern editor work on new computers at all? (I use a mac running OSX 10.6.)

Hopefully they will fill the vacuum with modules.

I want the inductor based 907a

Who knows, maybe they’ll even fill the modules with vacuum (tubes)?

Ordered one of the last of the 107s and it arrived today. Good stuff.

One thing that’s a bit disappointing… I’m using it as an oscillator with my Microbrute, but even with the Freq pot at minimum it tunes rather sharp. I have to use the 251’s mixer to drop the voltage by about half a mark. Not the end of the world but I’d rather use the mixer for other stuff. The MB is in tune, and when I do have the 107 set up this way it tracks just fine over a good four octaves at least. Any ideas?

I think there’s a V/oct trimmer in there, lots of Moogs track a little low because it’s easier to cut than boost the incoming pitch CV.

Opened it up and you’re right, there it is in the lower left:

Googled and found an old thread discussing how to tune it, but I’m a bit confused. I would expect two pots, corresponding to the slope (v/oct) and offset, but there’s only one. I don’t think the slope is off but the offset – that’s why I have to knock off half a volt using the mixer. Or is my thinking on this wrong?

… and replying to my own reply I got it working after about an hour. Didn’t realize that the Freq knob is the offset I was looking for (the b to the trimpot’s m in y = mx + b) but once that was done it was just a matter of getting the trimmer close a couple dozen times until I lucked out and landed on what it needs to be.

Well done :slight_smile:

Nice work!

Also: I just now saw the “Get your freq on” written on the PCB below R41 (right side of the pic towards the middle vertically). Awesome.

Well, Moog is sort of missing the boat here. Check out the 4ms SMRF:






http://vimeo.com/132412775

http://www.4mspedals.com/htnew/smr.php




Basically a 6-band MuRF where the filters can be tuned to musically interesting intervals, even used as resonators with no audio input. Or a patchable vocoder!

Say what you want about small scale modular, but it seems the sonic palette is ever-expanding. An interesting perspective from MI designer Olivier Gillet:
http://blog.reddogmusic.co.uk/2015/07/22/mutable-instruments-olivier-gillet-interview/

This topic deserves it’s own thread… but, while I agree the eurorack market has huge potential for the ‘sonic pallete’, I haven’t heard much that I like from artists that are using it. Much of my listening background in electronic music comes from the 90’s to mid 2000’s techno/trance. It includes popular artists such as Orbital, Orb, Autechre, Speedy J, and FSOL to relative unknowns; Seefeel, Single cell orcestra, and a melange of EDM DJ’s. and finally best of all; Wendy Carlos! However, all the video/Soundcloud material from euroracks sounds like polyrhythmic bleeps, and bloops, where the artist sets up a ton of sequencing and twiddles knobs to hand modulate and mix a ‘pre-wired setup’. I suspect, I’m either jaded or haven’t heard enough of it - but that’s my impression. Maybe I’m too old school: sonata format, melodic centric, harmonic development, etc…

I would be open (read love to hear) to examples countering my poor impression. For a short while I entertained going euro, but I had significant investment in Moog, and planned Moog style CV setup with limited space available. But, I vastly enjoyed the produce of the latter rather than the former. There’s still time though, or space I should say :slight_smile:

I have to be honest in that I’m not really a big “listener” of music at the moment; I like concerts and building stuff, and noodling around with my somewhat shambolic setup.

I think you get a lot of bleeps and bloops because people are feeling their way through modular synthesis. My approach is to treat it as its own instrument and couple it with standalone synths, bass etc. It’s also very “in the moment” as complex patches are difficult to find again.

You can find examples on Muff Wiggler Radio or perhaps by watching I Dream of Wires.

Ten years ago, I bought a Clavia G2 (ok, wait wait :wink: ). It’s a hybrid modular synth: patch on a screen, assign modules parameters to physical knobs, flash the patch into the synth and go stage. Great instrument. I learnt a lot patching but at a point I felt like “Ow I’m fed up with patching without making music”. Stopped patching for the sake of it. I now patch only what I actually need and use the synth as a light, small, flexible poly + FX box.

Later, I was excited by the idea of going modular. What prevented me to jump in was I knew how disciplined I am not haha. I feel more “secure” with precabled synths, or semi modular. I mean I too need to feel I’m making music with a popular* side (*read not musician-oriented but audience-oriented).
I also love making experimental improvisation sessions, but the pleasure is a bit different: rather than focused on the audience, it is more focused on the moment or the encounter of the musicians at that moment.

My impression is that the later is difficult to appreciate when 1- you’re not one of the guys turning the knobs 2-you are not even in the room when it is actually played. That’s the best explanation I found of why modular synth vids ended boring me 98% of the time.

I recently got a Bass Murf and I love it.

Me too, it’s got me thinking about picking up a MIDI MURF.

I sold my MF-105 the only pedal I’ve had on my board for almost 10 years continuously last month because I was in a scrape. I couldn’t regret it more.