Is there a way to adjust the mixer section so that the filter can be overdriven even more? I’ve been playing with feeding the headphone out back into the external audio in, and find that when I overdrive the mixer with it, I get some really excellent results!
I’m FMing Osc 1 with Osc3, while Osc3 is set to run free, and synching Osc2 to Osc1, while at the same time modulating the filter with Osc3. With all of the oscs waves set to that nice, hollow square wave sound, and adjusting the oscillators so that they phase in and out just enough to provide a sound like a slowly ringing bell, while having the external audio overdriven to a point where after the “bell” hits, I get this nice, sub-bass wave coming through the mix momentarily… well, I guess you can say I’m pretty excited!
I’d love it if it were possible to overdrive the filter in the same way for each individual oscillator! Is it possible? Is there an internal mixer gain control that can be tweaked?
I gots to have more droning possibilities! Can anybody help?
I am not positive is my answer will help, but… have you used the mixer out/filter in jack?
It may, or may not do what you want.
I did a demo of this feature… sorry about the “crappy” sound quality… I am only using a “cheap” digital camera with an internal microphone, but it will give you an idea of what is possible using the mixer out/filter in jack.
this one has no CV inputs controlling the 107.
I’ve been playing with feeding the headphone out back into the external audio in, and find that when I overdrive the mixer with it, I get some really excellent results!
Another thing to do is try putting an effect in line.
In my experience it sounds very interesting but it definately drowns out anything else that the filter is processing.
Im really hoping they will make a rack mounted Phatty or something, but then I AM waiting for them to ship the Taurus and Ill have that overdriven filter to play with.
If I insert a very clean amplifier between the mixer out and filter in using that jack, I might be able to do this, though at this point the individual volume pots on the mixer would be adding to the gain. I’m not sure how the gain structure works in the mixer itself. Does the gain of all of the mixer pots add at the input of the filter, or are they discrete, allowing you to overdrive one channel, but not the others? Since there is only one filter being overdriven, I would have to say that the gain from all channels out of the mixer sum with each other going into the filter. If one channel overdrives the filter, all channels going into the filter will be affected by the filter’s clipping.
If that’s the case, perhaps the headphone trick is just as good as anything else, if all gains from all channels end up summing with each other going into the filter.
Or do I even know what the h*ll I’m talking about?
I’ve found that if I’m careful about the levels going into the filter, I can still overdrive the filter to the point where it starts tossing audio artifacts, but still allows the basic mix to come through without becoming too muddy or losing the high-end altogether.
In fact, I’ve found that I can offset the effects of overdriving the filter by turning up the filter’s cutoff point to compensate for the loss of high-end. If I’m real careful, I can keep from losing all of the little nuances that are going on in the mix. But sometimes, it’s cool to just crank it up, and let the sound get real over the top! It can sound pretty awesome!
Ive never tried it with anything less than a 4 pole filter. Seems with a 1 pole filter you might not lose much high end. Ill have to try that tomorrow or something.
