Any Mother-32 Questions?

[MBlom]

Moogerfooger question:

Is the patchbay i/o voltage compatible with Moogerfoogers? Would be something to be able to use Freqbox easily as second oscillator and CP-251.

[bartleby]

does the vc lfo track 1v/oct, so that it can be used as a second vco?
(the werkstatt’s doesn’t)

[bartleby]

about the second crossfader (mix1, mix2, vc mix):

the manual says that it is dc coupled and all the examples in the manual are about mixing or attenuating control voltage signals. does this crossfader work with audio signals, too?

[edit:] actually, this is answered in the manual:

This is a DC-coupled, patchable, voltage-controlled mixer/attenuator that allows
two different > CV or audio > signals to be blended together […]

note to self: rtfm. [/edit]

[bartleby]

@ebo

Midi Poly chain wth more than one Mothers ,is it possible?

there are two ways to achieve this:

1. midi polychaining: use the (sadly, discontinued) mutable instruments midipal (or one of its diy successors). its ‘dispatcher’ app can turn any combination of midi-synthesizers into individual voices of one meta-synth. if you use a pc for sequencing, i’m sure there will be some software that does the same.

2. polyphonic midi-to-cv/gate: use a polyphonic multichannel midi-cv/gate interface, like the kenton pro 2000 or one of the excellent muc interfaces. or if you prefer eurorack, there are modules like the vermona quad midi or the upcoming doepfer a-190-5.

@ebo

is it possible to limit the sequencer steps to any number? (2 up to 31 steps)

yes, sequences can be any length up to 32 steps. just have a look at the manual.

[mmarsh100]

does the vc lfo track 1v/oct, so that it can be used as a second vco?
(the werkstatt’s doesn’t)

The Werkstatt does track to 1v/oct, you just have to calibrate it. If Mother does not track 1v/oct out of the box (which would surprise me since they are aiming at Eurorack) then you can calibrate it via the front panel access holes and the supplied calibration tool.

[bartleby]

@mmarsh100

does the vc lfo track 1v/oct, so that it can be used as a second vco?
(the werkstatt’s doesn’t)

The Werkstatt does track to 1v/oct, you just have to calibrate it. If Mother does not track 1v/oct out of the box (which would surprise me since they are aiming at Eurorack) then you can calibrate it via the front panel access holes and the supplied calibration tool.

my question was about the lfo, not the vco.

[Moogtard]

Hey Dan,


Are the OSC, Filter, Envelopes, basically the same as the ones that are in the Sub phatty series/Werksatt/Minitaur?
Does the Mother-32 have discrete audio/CV pathways? Would sending higher than 5v into the gate cv in cause any harm?

Thanks!

[HookedOnSonics]

Hi Dan, as we wait for Mom to arrive … . We do have a couple of questions.

What would be the ideal integration between the Arp and my Mother … I saw both have MIDI in. Interesting that folks are going strictly MIDI in these days. Both have 1/8 Gates and Cv so i guess we could mess around that way.

What would be the ideal integration between the Voyager XL? 1/8 to 1/4 cables to go Gate/CV out/in?

Any ideas on Theremin Plus Gate out / Pitch CV out?

Finally, thoughts on integration of Mom with the family of MoogerFoogers

Thanks in advance for any and all FEEDBACK!!!

[droner]

I have a (possibly dumb) question. How well would the Mother-32 work with a Voyager Old School? Could I use it to sequence the Voyager?
Thanks

[_DemonDan]

@pnorris79

Is the oscillator of the super-stable variety of something like a Sub Phatty?

It seems stable not long after power up, but I haven’t meticulously held it up against a precise reference.

FWIW, the manual states:
Your Mother-32 is an analog instrument and should be allowed 10-15 minutes to warm up before use.
In cases where it has been left in a cold car overnight, for example, it may take as long as 25 minutes
before oscillator tuning has stabilized. Do not operate the Mother-32 in direct sunlight.

@pnorris79

Also, how hot is the oscillator into the filter and can you control its gain into the filter?

The MIX knob balances between VCO only (fully CCW) and NOISE / EXT (fully CW).

So, it doesn’t seem like there’s an “overdrive” amount that can be provided by the MIX knob.
But, you could always go from VCO SAW out (or VCO PULSE out) to a gain box and then back into the EXT. AUDIO input.

[_DemonDan]

@slabwax

Does it sound more Minitaur or Werkstatt?

I don’t have my Minitaur or Werkstatt in the same building as my M-32, but it has to be much closer to the Werkstatt as its basic sections are similar.

@slabwax

How does the size set with Minitaur?

I’m guessing that they’re both roughly the same with the M-32 being about 25% wider.

[_DemonDan]

@mmarsh100

What happens when you take, say, the VCO PULSE Out to the VCO Freq In? Will it modulate itself?

Hi Mike,

VCO PULSE out to VCO 1V/OCT in seems to make the OSC go about 2Hz (around two audible clicks per second).

As you change the PULSE WIDTH knob from fully CCW to fully CW, the freq goes up to an audible freq just a bit above the original note chosen by the keyboard.

Silence seems to be the only result of sending either VCO PULSE out or VCO SAW out into the VCO LIN FM in.

[_DemonDan]

@slabwax

[Will it play the "Lucky Man " solo?

While its PULSE WAVE (set to 50%) is VERY fat, and the GLIDE and RESONANCE are up to the task, it doesn’t have the sound of multiple, detuned OSCs.

Gentle use of PWM gets you part of the way. One or two more M-32s would probably get you a very satisfactory result.

[_DemonDan]

@Bertotti

If I hooked a Mother-32 and my Minitaur up to my MacBook Pro, will Logic see them as separate devices?

Since the M-32 doesn’t have USB, Logic would see whatever MIDI/USB interface you have connected (via 5-pin DIN MIDI) to the M-32.

@Bertotti

I was looking at a moogerfooger but this is really much more tempting to add to my Minitaur.

I totally get that. The Minitaur and M-32, connected in various ways via CVs would be a long-lasting source of enjoyment.

(But then again, so would any of the moogerfoogers and a Mother-32!)

[_DemonDan]

@DaveBee

Another question … can the LFO be synced to the VCO to be used as a second VCO?
I know the site says a max of 600Hz but wondering if this a practical thing.

Without patching, the LFO only goes to 350Hz.

You can get up to 600Hz by adding voltage to the LFO RATE input.

So, realistically, it wouldn’t terribly useful as a second VCO.

[_DemonDan]

@0netwo0netwo

When do we get to see the video of Mr. Fisher tweakin all the knobs?
woo hoo Excited

Although Mr. Fisher has already recorded a Mother-32 video demo, he has been requested not to release it until Oct. 8th (Thurs.)

[_DemonDan]

@Moogtard

Are the OSC, Filter, Envelopes, basically the same as the ones that are in the Sub Phatty series/Werkstatt/Minitaur?

The features are most reminiscent of the Werkstatt. Here are some pics:
http://www.moogmusic.com/products/semi-modular/mother-32

@Moogtard

Does the Mother-32 have discrete audio/CV pathways? Would sending higher than 5v into the Gate CV in cause any harm?

The manual gives specific allowable overages for various ins:
http://www.moogmusic.com/products/semi-modular/mother-32#downloads-tab

[slabwax]

Hi Dan,

I hope your gig went well this past weekend. Also thanks for taking the time to answer all of our questions.

[Bertotti]

Demon Dan thanks for the reply!

[mmarsh100]

Hi Mike,

VCO PULSE out to VCO 1V/OCT in seems to make the OSC go about 2Hz (around two audible clicks per second).

As you change the PULSE WIDTH knob from fully CCW to fully CW, the freq goes up to an audible freq just a bit above the original note chosen by the keyboard.

Silence seems to be the only result of sending either VCO PULSE out or VCO SAW out into the VCO LIN FM in.

Thanks, Dan. That’s mildly disappointing but this is the same-ish behavior on my Pittsburgh Synth Block. Ah well, no bug noises for me…guess I’ll just have to patch that up on my 5U