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ANYONE USE NUMEROLOGY'S SEQUENCER?

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 9:39 pm
by KrateKraig
Howdy fellow moogsters! After getting my 1969 Schwinn Apple Krate this summer, I thought... Hmmm, what other earthly (non-human) object have I lusted for my whole life? Yup, Always wanted a minimoog... So, I just bought a new Voyager AE . (Black Beauty) And I must say it is incredibly fun and well worth the big buck. (I call it the Les Paul of synthesizers.) Anyway, I would love to get into some 70's era Tangerine Dream style improv sequencing... Knob twisting is fun! And I've been looking around at sequencing options when I discovered Five12's Numerology. Since I already have the Mac, it sounded like fun for $80... How well does it work?

Thanx. Craig.

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:35 am
by GregAE
Regarding Numerology - I'm aware of it but haven't tried it. However, for just a few more dollars ($99), you can get Cubase SE, Steinberg's 'budget' version of their popular sequencer. Cubase SE supports MIDI and audio recording, VST plugins and instruments, offers pitch shift and time stretch functions and a whole lot more. Pretty complete for less than a C note, IMO.

Works on a PC (XP/2000) or a Mac (OSX).

Greg

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2004 9:40 am
by GregAE
And by the way - congrats on the AE acquisition! I'm sure you'll be very happy for many years to come.

FWIW, I prefer to think of my Voyager performer as the 'Lexus' of synthesizers. ;-)

Grge

Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:14 pm
by optimusrob
Nice -- I think of mine as a Model T with a Ferrari mod. Classic architexture with state-of-the-art performance style --

Numerology

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:08 am
by Sunsinger
Hi
Yes, I use Numerology and its really an incredibble program. Its based on an analoug sequencer model and works like a modular synth control. You have access to many types of modules that you can build from scratch to send anything from multiple gate triggers to midi cc mesages of every mapped part of your AE. Its simple to use but can get much more tweakhead than you can imagine. It offers some very complex module configurations such as XY axis control grids. Offset pitch generators (this takes a sequence and transposes it for you as fast or slow as you want). AU access of other synths and plugins. And its got one of the most accurate and versatile clocking schemes around. This program blows Cubase away for its imagination and versatility. Also the guy that owns the company Jim Coker is imminently accessable for support on the web and very cool to work with.

Sunsinger :arrow:

Posted: Wed Dec 15, 2004 10:00 pm
by KrateKraig
Thanx to one and all! i'll most likely give Numerology a try at a later date. I just discovered my friend is going all new tech and getting rid of some of his old school stuff. (I'm doing the opposite!) It looks like I'll trade some gear for his Pro-One. Since it has a sequencer built in, I'll play around with that first.

Hey Sunsinger, I love your Eno quote!!! (Eno is god.) One of my favorite quotes is by one of Eno's musical collaborators, Robert Fripp. Fripp once said about the Mellotron: "Tuning a Mellotron doesn't."
Now that parts are actually available to repair old Mellotrons, I sometimes wish I would have kept mine. (Sold it in the late '80's when nobody cared or new anything about them.)

Thanx, Craig.

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 3:31 am
by Boeing 737-400
Its only a 40 note sequencer, can't do much except sequence simple basslines on it.

Re: ANYONE USE NUMEROLOGY'S SEQUENCER?

Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 10:12 pm
by suitandtieguy
nx01craig wrote:And I've been looking around at sequencing options when I discovered Five12's Numerology. Since I already have the Mac, it sounded like fun for $80... How well does it work?
it's awesome.

i helped design it. you should come down to Peoria and hang out in my studio with your V'ger and we can rock out berlin school style. i'm only 2 hours away or something, 25 minutes from I-39. we could even have dinner at my favourite supper club in Oglesby if you want.

Numerology

Posted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 12:52 am
by Sunsinger
More on Numerology:

First create a group
If you look in the group section once you have created a modular setup, you can see an area to the left of your modules that allows you to save presets, or patterns, (of up to 32 notes) these can be snapshotted and copied to the preset list for that group. You can vary a pattern as many ways as you like and then snapshot it and copy it. Then if you move into either mixer mode or track mode in the menu bar at the top of this screen, and you can drop these presets into a composition (track) format like composing with rhythm patterns on a drum machine. You can do this almost infinitly. Oh...by the way, you can have as many groups controlling as many synth modules or midi channels as the CPU can handle. Its like tangerine dream on steroids. I plan on hooking it up to the Andromeda I just got and sequencing against the 16 independant voices with the Voyager used for leads.
Ohh Boy!!!

Sunsinger :arrow:

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 5:51 am
by puppets
Sunsinger, Boing was talking about the sequencer on the pro~one, that sequencer has a limit of 40 steps. However on the pro~one you can transpose the sequences with the pro~one's keyboard so it is quite useful :)

/Jonas

I tweak til it hertz...

Apology

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 12:39 pm
by Sunsinger
Ooops...Sorry for the lecture Boing...
I thought someone was slamming one of my favorite softwares.

Sincerely

Sunsinger :oops:

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 1:53 pm
by Boeing 737-400
After all these years people still can't spell my name! :)

The Pro-One sequencer/arpeggiator is very useful, but limited. I heard there was a hardware mod that could allow more notes to be stored????

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 3:41 pm
by sundaeclubber
Boeing 737-400 wrote:The Pro-One sequencer/arpeggiator is very useful, but limited. I heard there was a hardware mod that could allow more notes to be stored????
Why oh why would you want to do that these days!!?
:wink:

HRx

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:10 pm
by Boeing 737-400
Trying to keep Vintage Analogue alive! :)

I can't bear to make any changes to the original design though. Midi-CV converter, and a sequencing program will be better!

Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 4:29 pm
by sundaeclubber
Boeing 737-400 wrote:Trying to keep Vintage Analogue alive! :)
that's OK then!!