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Adding an Oscillator

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:32 pm
by The Analog Organist
What are the easiests ways to add an oscillator or two to the Voyager (Old School)? I've been hoping that a Moogerfooger oscillator module would appear, but that doesn't seem likely. It seems like the most obvious module of all to me, but I guess not the Moog. So what are the options for adding a nice stable oscillator that will track the keyboard as well as the Voyager's other three?

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 3:16 pm
by Just Me
You can get the ring mod to track (see Lord of the Ring Mod) and I was going to try the Freq box tonight. I've got my RM tracking using the VX and a CP to get the scaling.
I'm going to use my Encore on the Freq box. (But I have the advantage of MIDI on the Signature Voyager)

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 3:33 pm
by CZ Rider
Way back in 1975, adding an extra oscillator or two to the Minimoog, the SEM was a popular choice. Tom's new SEM with patch panel would be a nice addition to a Voyager OS. Many different way to configure that combo.

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 3:43 pm
by acorkos
i see a modular synth system in your future...

in the meantime, start with 2 of these
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http://www.synthesizers.com/q106.html

one of these
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http://www.synthesizers.com/q124.html

and one of these
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http://www.synthesizers.com/q101.html

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:16 pm
by Just Me
You could also do an ARP Little Brother as an add-on OSC and LFO.
But don't forget the Rack mount frame for the Arrick stuff shown above. Or a nice 22 space 'starter' cabinet. LOL

Re: Adding an Oscillator

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 4:27 pm
by _DemonDan_
The Analog Organist wrote:What are the easiests ways to add an oscillator or two to the Voyager (Old School)? I've been
hoping that a Moogerfooger oscillator module would appear, but that doesn't seem likely.
I've had good luck with a Little Phatty (w/ CV Outs) and the MF-107 FreqBox's OSC Out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkm-2OuIOhI
(About 4:00 into the video.)

It'd certainly be worth trying.

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:21 pm
by The Analog Organist
Yes, I saw that video of the Little Phatty with the Freqbox. Very interesting. But because I don't have the Freqbox and don't want to blow $350, I want to hear your opinions on this. I have the Voyager OS and the CP-251. First, what is required to connect the Freqbox to the Voyager? And second, is the tracking accurate enough so that the oscillator beating between one oscillator from the Voyager and one from the Freqbox will not change as I play up and down the keyboard? I don't want a clumsy oscillator thrown in with the three from the Voyager. That would defeat my purposes.

My next (rhetorical) question would be, why on earth did Moog make the Freqbox into a pedal, rather than a module like the CP-251?!

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:29 pm
by _DemonDan_
The Analog Organist wrote: I have the Voyager OS and the CP-251. First, what is required to connect the Freqbox to the Voyager?
And second, is the tracking accurate enough so that the oscillator beating between one oscillator from
the Voyager and one from the Freqbox will not change as I play up and down the keyboard?
Hi TAO,

As I don't have access to any Voyagers right now, I'll have to defer to someone who owns both
(and is at least as persnickety as you and me about such things).

But I will try a more exhaustive test on the Little Phatty/FreqBox when my time eases up a little.
(Unless some kind soul beats me to it with either synth.)

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 5:34 pm
by The Analog Organist
Persnickety? Hmph! :lol:

Acorkos -

I was looking at those oscillators this morning. Very nice, indeed.

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:25 pm
by Wyrm
I've just tried adding another osc to my OS using FreqBox. KB CV out to Freq in - tune it a bit and there you go! Simple as that.

Great fun!

I tuned all the oscillators to a major minor triad with a flat 7. 1-3-5-7
WOW - massive

another funny thing you can do is to modulate second osc with your modwheel so that you change the interval by a half step. With a flip of a modwheel you have major triad!
Basically Maj7 and Min7 in one patch. On a monosynth! :)

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:38 pm
by EricK
The freqbox will track well with the Voyager, all you need is the pitch out, and I don't know if the Old School comes with that already. I know there is a slight difference in the jackson the rear panel of the OS than the regular voyagers.

It only tracks about 4 or 5 octaves because its not designed to be a fully functional osc. The ringmod tracks easier and over a wider range but you are limited to only 1 waveform.

The 101 will also serve as an extra sine wae Osc in oscillitory mode with the resonance all the way up and from what I understand, gets LOOOOOW and tracks well.

I like to use the Freq as an extra voice, like a great destination for S&H or Lagged out LFOs. I rarely use it as an extra Osc but for no particular reason.

If theres no Pitch output on the Old School then unfortunately youll have to get a Vx351, which is another 300 or so.

The freqbox is fairly stable but within there are no temp regulation devices so it will drift, but ive never noticed it, probably because it never really goes anywhere. Nothing wront with a little instabillity in the old osc department every now and again, right?

Keep Novamusik in mind for your purchases because they do great deals.

Id go with the dotcom route if you are interested in that.

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:56 pm
by acorkos
Voyager Old School has convenient KB PITCH CV and KB GATE jacks on the back panel....along with all the CV/GATE/PEDAL INPUTS

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:59 pm
by anoteoftruth
EricK wrote: If theres no Pitch output on the Old School then unfortunately youll have to get a Vx351, which is another 300 or so.
I have a RME... would I need the VX351? or VX352?

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:36 pm
by acorkos
anoteoftruth wrote:
EricK wrote: If theres no Pitch output on the Old School then unfortunately youll have to get a Vx351, which is another 300 or so.
I have a RME... would I need the VX351? or VX352?
VX351.

The VX352 provides the CV inputs that all other voyagers have built-in.

Posted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:41 pm
by Just Me
My local store will make a deal on the 351 and 352. They are blowing out the Moog stuff right now. They have 2 of each left, I think.