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MF-104 or MF-104Z ? which one to buy?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:12 pm
by hagai99
Hi,
I'm planning on buying the moogerfooger delay and I really wonder between the MF-104 and the MF-104Z.
Which is better to get any why? (assuming i can find an MF-104)

Thanks.

interesting

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:38 pm
by itaisim
that's interesting...
are there any technical differences between the two?
i know the delay times are different:
MF-104 - delay time between 40 milliseconds and 0.8 seconds
MF-104Z - delay time between slightly less than 50 milliseconds to slightly more than 1 second.

but other than this spec info, i'm not sure if they are different...
anyone?

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:49 pm
by EricK
Probably the prices if you find a big briar 104 will be higher. The 104z should be superior.

Unless you get the SD which is longer and a collectors item.

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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:46 am
by artpunk
EricK wrote:Probably the prices if you find a big briar 104 will be higher. The 104z should be superior.

Unless you get the SD which is longer and a collectors item.
@EricK - I know this is an old thread but I am hoping you are wrong, as I just picked up a Big Briar Delay!
Do you have any rationale for that superior statement apart from the extra 200ms (edited with an extra 0 to correctly reflect difference :wink:) of delay? BTW - It was also less expensive than some z's I have seen going for lately. 
redeyeflight wrote:probaby almost as cool as an original signature model....although I do have to say that a friend has one and we a/b'd his vs. my 104z and couldn't hear any difference in the sound...I still want one too though.  Although I think i'd rather try and get an SD version on ebay...
Found the above quote in this older thread ...that, subjective as the comparison might have been, makes me think (hope) there may be minimal differences. Oh, and I'd love to pick up an SD one day too!!
:D

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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:28 am
by fyvewytches
artpunk wrote:Do you have any rationale for that superior statement apart from the extra 20ms of delay?
That would be 200ms :wink:
Anyway, congrats on finding one !!

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Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 4:37 am
by artpunk
fyvewytches wrote:
artpunk wrote:Do you have any rationale for that superior statement apart from the extra 20ms of delay?
That would be 200ms :wink:
Anyway, congrats on finding one !!
Ha! My bad, yes 200ms! I'm sure I typed 200 but this iPad keyboard just doesn't give the same feedback!
(& thanks! I'm chuffed I finally scored a 104 of any version!) :D

Re: MF-104 or MF-104Z ? which one to buy?

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:50 pm
by latigid on
I seem to recall the 104Z had some improvements in S/N ratio along with a longer delay time