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For sanity purposes, when backing up in SysEx Librarian the # of Msgs is 1...for a whole bank? I'm used to seeing 128 for a whole bank from other manufactures which makes sense since to me since it's a bank of patches 1-128, thus 128 Msgs.

Just want to be dead sure here. I'd flip if I lost all my patches.

So no one backs-up their patches?

Well, if you do and don't use SysEx librarian then what are you using?

I am also using SysEx Librarian. I looked at my backups and they each just have one message per bank. If you are worried, just reload one of your backups to the Voyager to prove to yourself that it's okay.

Joe
':D'

Tech Support confirmed, one long string message around 18k. There is no way I was just going to test a reload. What if I was wrong? Then all my original patches would've been lost! Thankfully, I feel safe now.

Probably my bad for not being clear but no way was I suggesting you do something rash. I should have said, I've been using Sysex Librarian and I have swapped banks in and out multiple times with no problems. I only suggested you try one of yours yourself to give you peace of mind. Also I like to know that the data I backed up is error free before I tuck it away for later use. YMMV.

monads wrote:...
# of Msgs is 1...for a whole bank?
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Yes. Its 18734 Byte long SysEx dump.
If you wolud like to store each sound in a seperate SysEx dump, you need to activate the sound to dump and then dump the panel sound (149 Bytes long). Or write a little dump request 1 to 128 file and ply it back to the Voyager while recording its SysEx output. See the new 2.3 SysEx documentation.
This is one reason for me why I will get the upcoming Voyager bank and patch managing software.
Of cause, you may use a HexEditor to extract a single patch from a 128 sound dump. But this need some SysEx and Hex knowledge. And this isn't a basic thing for real musicians.