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Syncing a Murf
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2009 9:11 pm
by HB3
I recall Amos posting somewhere in here about syncing the murf via the multipedal, but can't remember where, and can't find it!
Could someone point me to that post, please?
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:43 am
by Voltor07
Here ya go! This is an old post...no wonder you couldn't find it. Thanks for giving me something to search for!
http://www.moogmusic.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5675
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:33 pm
by HB3
That's not it...I coulda sworn there was a post where he described how he actually synced it.
Or someone could just, you know, tell me...how do you sync a murf via the 201?
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:43 pm
by Bryan T
HB3 wrote:Or someone could just, you know, tell me...how do you sync a murf via the 201?
I think you'd send a square wave LFO (MIDI synchronized, if you like) to TAP/STEP IN on the MuRF.
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 1:45 pm
by Bryan T
Also, I just stumbled across Amos' description. It was on the Videos tab of the MP-201 product page on Moog's site:
Moog Guru, Amos Gaynes, explains how he created the soundtrack for this video...
The melodic arpeggio that runs from beginning to end is a Little Phatty running through a MuRF and an MF-104 Analog Delay.
The MuRF pattern was synchronized to Ableton Live's MIDI clock using the MP-201 Multi-Pedal. Here's how to do it:
Set up a MP-201 channel to be a square wave LFO. Set LFO Sync = MIDI and pick whatever clock divisions you want.
Next, connect a patch cable to the analog output of the MP-201 channel you are working with, and connect the other end of the cable to the TAP/STEP input jack on the MuRF. You want to use STEP mode, which means either plugging the patch cable *halfway* into the tap/step jack, or using the MuRF Step Adaptor on this end of the patch cable. Now, each pulse of the MP-201 LFO will advance the MuRF pattern by one step.
Connect a MIDI output (usb or DIN) from your computer to the MP-201 and set your sequencer to send MIDI Sync... now when you hit Play in your sequence, the MP-201 LFO will lock to your MIDI tempo and the MuRF will step along with the LFO.
The bass line is the simplest part; it's straight Little Phatty presets with no effects. The patch used was Taurus Bass 2.
The melodic lead sound was played live on the Little Phatty, running into an MF-103 Phaser and the MF-104 Delay. The Multi-Pedal was used as an expression pedal to tweak the MF-103 Phaser Sweep and Resonance controls in realtime.
Finally, the crazy sound effects layer. This was created using a chain of Moogerfoogers, all being modulated by different LFOs from the Multi-Pedal. The original sound source was an MF-101 lowpass filter with the resonance boosted to self-oscillation.
This signal was then sent to an MF-102 Ring Modulator, and then the output from the Ring Modulator was sent to an MF-103 phaser. The MP-201 was sending independent analog LFOs to the MF-101 cutoff frequency, the MF-102 carrier frequency, and the MF-103 Sweep input; all three of these LFOs were being controlled simultaneously from the MP-201 foot pedal. This left my hands free to tweak Moogerfooger knobs at the same time, further increasing the sonic mayhem.
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:24 pm
by HB3
Thanks! It's still not the mystery post I was thinking of, but that'll do...I hope!
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:25 pm
by HB3
"Set LFO Sync = MIDI and pick whatever clock divisions you want."
Clock divisions are just set by moving the pedal, aren't they?
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:29 pm
by Bryan T
HB3 wrote:"Set LFO Sync = MIDI and pick whatever clock divisions you want."
Clock divisions are just set by moving the pedal, aren't they?
Clock division is a setting for the LFO.
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:41 pm
by HB3
It is? I'm missing something, then. I'll try it again today and post my results. It seemed like I was kinda successful in syncing lfos to midi clock yesterday, but not with deadly precision. is it working for you w/ deadly precision?
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:01 pm
by Bryan T
HB3 wrote:is it working for you w/ deadly precision?
I don't have an MP-201 any longer. When I did, I had better luck when using a MIDI cable than using USB, but could definitely get the MP-201 to sync to a MIDI clock at lots of different tempo subdivisions.
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 3:11 pm
by HB3
Right. Ok, thanks.
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2009 5:37 pm
by HB3
Ah. Ok. Important lesson: do not plug the thing into the wrong hole.
It syncs, but switching divisions as its running doesn't work so hot...I seem to recall reading somewhere on here that this was due to the lfo resetting when the user changes it, but not necessarily on the locked-to-time downbeat. And this is one of the things that's gonna get fixed in the update?
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:16 am
by DontBelievetheHype
My experience with it is that it will reset to the downbeat, but you have to time it very well. I don't know if is possible for improvements on it or not, but with some practice Ive been able to get some good results doing dubstep style filter lfo modulation/changing of the subdivisions when midi sync'd.