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ive had my voyager rme for a little while now but i can help but think im just skimming the surface of what i could be doing with it. The furthest ive gone is routing the headphone outs into the external in to do the overdrive trick (or routing external audio in to the filters)...which is awesome but i was wondering if anyone has any advice on other cool things i can do or plug in to it? i realize it's a vague question, and could be applied to synths in general, but im still interested in your thoughts. Arduino or Max Msp projects? strange hardware sequencers for modulating control data?...stuff like that

have a nice day
-Dan

Their Marketing campaign, Sonic Infinity...
THe possibillities are endless.

Things really start to get interesting when you add a Vx351 into the Mix. Read the back of your manual about that. With that you can route the CV outs back into the CV inputs.

THen (also in the manual) comes the Cp251, which will let you combine several of the voltages that the Voyager spits out and will swallow right back into its own inputs...not to mention multiplying, Attenuating, Randimizing, and Lagging the voltages it produces all by itself.

THen You start adding Foogers and you can process the Voltages AND the Audio SIgnals.

I think the 2 best Foogers to go with the Voyager are the Ring Mod and the Delay This is of corse also assuming that you have the Vx351 and Cp 251.

Basically if your wallet can contain infinity then theres really nothing like the dotcom hardware sequencers, the future retro voltage banks. Theres all kinds of multimode filters out there.

It really all depends on your tastes and what you can get your hands on.

Eric

Actually, if you have a performer or a select.....I would seriously reccomend experimenting with the Programmable Sources and Destinations on your Mod Busses. Theres also the Filter Pole selection.

Try just your basic 3 osc patch with a tiny bit of noise. Tweak the filter and then change it to a 1 pole filter and see what that does!

Really disregard my previous post......learn the software really good before you start spending lots of dough wondering what else the Voyager is capable of. It will do a lot more JUST with the software.

Eric

thanks for the fantastic replies lots of great sounding advice in there

i guess, more specifically, i am looking for some additional hardware to plug in to it... what i love about the voyager is it's so hands on, and it's finally letting me break out of this tedious computer noodling/programming habit (i get lost in the details and don't end up making music). Now that i have a taste for flipping switches and overdriving signals i want more! more switches and midi controllers and step sequencers that alter params etc..anything that helps control or manipulate the sound in a hands on way..so im liking your advice on the cv uprades et al (of course not to the detriment of learning the synth inside and out, but thats a separate issue). Thankfully i have recently got bit of tax money back, so am in the position after a long time to buy some new bits and bobs.

have a nice day
Dan

hooray for tax returns. that's how i paid for my voyager os!

Think about the Mp201...it has midi capabillities. I don't own one so I really can't tell you exactly what they are.

What voyager do you have? Performer? Select? Old School? RME?

Cp251 offers Multiples, Lag Processor, Dual Waveform LFO, VOltage Mixer, Attenuators, and a noise source. Theres also smoothe and stepped sample and hold attatched to that LFO.

THe Vx351 Voyager expander will offer you all of the juicy VOltage outputs..like the Keyboard VOltage, AFter pressure, Velocity and Gate. THe Touchpad also produces voltages, X, Y, Area covered, and Gate. THeres also 2 Waveforms available for the LFO output, 2 attenuators, 2 multiples. Theres also a Filter and VOlume envelope output...which can be very handy. Theres also a sample and hold output.

then theres the Foogers. Each one has its own modular style circuitry that you can add to the Voyager. For instance the 101 has a filter and envelope follower. THe 102 has Oscillator, LFO, Ring MOdulator. The 103 offers a 12 Stage phaser and LFO. The 104 is a nice nice delay pedal. The Murf has 8 animated resonant filters that act as a sequencer but not quite the full blown sequencer I don't know what else the murf has. The 107 also offers Osc and envelope follower.

The Mp201 is like the ultimate expression pedal. It offers 4 simeltaneous or individual Control Voltages with quad waveform LFOs and other goodies.


Really its just a matter of what you want to do and what other equipment you have.


Lots of people here will be able to help you decide on what to get.



Welcome to the Moog family!
Eric

Hi Dan,

You should join KnobTweak - it features tons of cool Voyager info (patches, articles, instruction) that will get your creative juices going, and give you some idea of what you can do with a Voyager/VX-351/CP-251 and Moogerfoogers.

Cheers!

- Greg

hey good idea i have just joined KnobTweak i have got the vx 351 and electric blue and so far its very basic patches i have tried and there's not that much info ore it not so clear but ime learning hope i can get help there cheers man,

solconnection wrote:The furthest ive gone is routing the headphone outs into the external in to do the overdrive trick

Wait, I thought you couldn't use the headphone out into the audio input due to an impedance mismatch

http://www.moogmusic.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2001

No it works but its a very sensitive adjustment of the Mixer amount knob when overdriving. A little volume goes a long way. Its very easy for it to sound unpleasant.

So a regular stereo 1/4" cable will work?

Subtronik wrote:So a regular stereo 1/4" cable will work?

No - you risk shorting out one channel if you use a stereo cable. A better (and safer) solution is to use an insert cable that breaks out both the left and right channels on separate jacks. With this cable in place, either channel will work for setting up a feedback loop - just be careful with the HP volume level. To be safe, start at a low setting.

EricK wrote:No it works but its a very sensitive adjustment of the Mixer amount knob when overdriving. A little volume goes a long way. Its very easy for it to sound unpleasant.

Absolutely, but remember that one man's "unpleasant" is another's "freakin awesome!"

Well I tried both ways, headphone in and output in and neither sound very good, at least not as good as the little phattys overdrive.

I guess if I want some crunch I'll look into an external distortion unit.

When I do this, it seems to lessen the resonance and fill out the bass, but not in a very useful way to my ears at least.

I do like the bizarre 'bonk' you get when you overload the external audio input. Actually scared me the first time...

Yeah, that harsh rumbling bonk sound had me worried.

I don't think I'll ever try that again.