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MF103 - biphase and then some?!

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:28 pm
by ColorForm2113
So I just discovered the Sweep In jack on the phaser. I was always kinda baffled why there where 2 cv ins for one knob. But after reading the manual a couple time it finnaly clicked! In 12stage mode the 103's lfo controls 6 of the stages and the lfo being fed into the sweep in controls the other 6 stages creating to independant phasers! Using the ring mods carrier out to the sweep in produces some amazing results. (Warblely sine wave rising up into fm). Has anyone else messed with this much, I don't recall it being mentioned before. I LOVE MOOG :D

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 6:41 pm
by Alien8
You think that's fun, try it in stereo :twisted:

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 7:28 pm
by ColorForm2113
That will be tonights experiment. Through amps then headphones

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:12 pm
by EricK
Thanks for that. Ill keep that in mind when I finally get a phaser.

Eric

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:54 am
by Bryan T
EricK wrote:Thanks for that. Ill keep that in mind when I finally get a phaser.

Eric
I think that this just moved the 103 to first on my 'next Moog purchase' list.

Bryan

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 1:39 am
by ColorForm2113
:shock: stereo is awesome :shock:

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:30 am
by EricK
My next Moog will be the Theremin Upgrade, and then Foogers in order Murf Phaser and LPF.

But If I get my license before then Im going to get several modules.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:17 am
by Voltor07
I've played around a bit with similar setups running the ring mod and phaser through the LP's Audio In with amazing results, making fine changes with my potentiometer bank. Unfortunately, I can't run stereo with my current setup without running stuff through my Aiwa alarm clock/30 watt stereo. :twisted:

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 4:19 pm
by ColorForm2113
Voltor07 wrote: Unfortunately, I can't run stereo with my current setup without running stuff through my Aiwa alarm clock/30 watt stereo. :twisted:
LMAO that's great! Is that the cylinder shaped one? My friend had one of those with four drum pads on top?!

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:23 pm
by Voltor07
ColorForm, actually it's a 15 watt per channel bookshelf stereo run through two 12" endtable speakers from 1963. I just use it as an alarm clock. :lol:

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:48 am
by ColorForm2113
Oh Crap! i think thats the kind of alarm clock i need

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:35 am
by r05c03
The Osc. out from the Freq Box can do the same thing and track too boot?

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 2:12 pm
by Voltor07
I don't have an MF-107, but yes, r05c03 I believe that's the idea. :? Don't quote me on that, though I'm 99% sure that's how it works.

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:36 pm
by ColorForm2113
The ringmod carrier out can go from lfo to vco though. But the freq has envelope follower and fm so that can be interesting

Posted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 4:19 pm
by soundxplorer
The MF-103 rocks. Just the other day I picked up an Electro-Harmonix Small Stone to do a side-by-side comparison (knowing I could return the EH). I figured if it sounded as good as the 103, I could sell the Fooger and get off cheap with the Small Stone.

I made my decision in under a minute: keep the 103. :D

The EH did sound great, but added a "haze" to the original sound, or made it a little "blurry"-sounding. The 103 is much clearer-sounding to me. When I say "clearer", I don't mean it lacks richness or depth. I mean it preserves all of the nuances of the original signal.

All of my testing was done with a Moog LP, not a guitar. I can see how a guitarist might prefer the color that the EH gives your tone. The other thing that bugged me about the EH was it has no wet/dry mix control.