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What if MOOG MUSIC were to produce a new polophonic synth...

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:43 pm
by Christopher J. Boylan
This is really an offshoot of another thread - the one about the discontinuation of the Voyager Old School. I was just making the point that Moog Music was most likely making room so that they can develop a cool new product. I was pulling for a new polysynth.

As follows:
My wish?? Probably a nice, 61 or better yet, a 76 key polyphonic synth with the same quality and basic design as Voyager - traditional analog waveforms with knobs, switches and all. 8 Voices should do the trick. Perhaps with some of LP in there too to help cut down on knobs just a bit. THE MOOD TANK! Such a KILLER instrument that MILITARY TRAINING is required to own one.
Oh, with a removable 'back-lit optical ribbon controller built in as standard equipment.
Oh... might as well add a nice card slot - right there in the front panel... for adding banks of complex waveforms - those can be an after market thing...


alainhubert said:
I agree, we all want a polyphonic Moog synth. That should be on Moog Music's "to do" list. I just can't imagine the price of such a beast!

Now, I was thinking that if they took the design right from Little Phatty, that could help keep the price down a bit.

Now, my card slot thing for adding complex waveforms might be cool. I mean, think of a Memorymoog, but wtih LP type contol and the card slot just puts complex waveforms into the mix - sort of like the external signal input. You could insert, say a piano sound which would either replace or be added to the oscillators and could be manipulated fully by all of the synths features, i.e. envelopes, filter, etc. The only synth that was designed to do this kind of thing that I know of was the Korg DSS1, but it was a conventional black-box, parameter controlled design.

That could be cool, if it's feasible. But my question to you all is this:
Asside from that, what could be produced in a polysynth that hasn't already been done?

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:45 pm
by Jrayk Roze
just this one time, I hope history doesn't repeat itself

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 8:51 pm
by Christopher J. Boylan
IMHO, the Memorymoog was one hell of a synth. I've owned one for 20 something years. But I think the technology of the time made it a bit un-roadworthy. But aside from that, I still don't think that there was ever anything that could touch it.

Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 9:19 pm
by Matt Friedman
I remember seeing a post from Amos with an oblique reference to a polysynth, so who knows.

To be honest, though, I don'th think I'd really care if Moog produced apolysynth, since it would almost certainly be priced well out of my reach... by several orders of magnitude.

Moreover, I have naval and not military training, so I wouldn't be allowed to play it...

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:20 am
by MC
Good timing - just finished my Memorymoog page

I have more to add later to the page

http://www.retrosynth.com/~analoguedieh ... emorymoog/

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:13 am
by EricK
In all honesty I don't think that my keyboard skills warrant me having a polysynth.

I think that If I did get something like that, Id get a poly.

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:50 am
by Voltor07
I have no musical skills whatsoever. That hasn't kept me from producing pleasing music, though.

What hasn't been done in a polysynth? What about a keyboard with multiple points on each key that allow you to bend the notes by wiggling your finger(s) side to side? :wink:

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:10 am
by latigid on
Voltor07 wrote:I have no musical skills whatsoever. That hasn't kept me from producing pleasing music, though.

What hasn't been done in a polysynth? What about a keyboard with multiple points on each key that allow you to bend the notes by wiggling your finger(s) side to side? :wink:
http://www.bikexprt.com/music/refine.htm

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:21 am
by Matt Friedman
Voltor07 wrote:What hasn't been done in a polysynth? What about a keyboard with multiple points on each key that allow you to bend the notes by wiggling your finger(s) side to side? :wink:
Yamaha combo organs had this back in the 1970s. It was called touch vibrato.

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 9:41 am
by LeRoi
I think Moog is certainly capable of designing the most bad ass polyphonic thing ever, but I really think price would be a factor. The average musician cannot even justify the price of a Voyager. If Moog dropped Voyager prices and introduced the poly whatever at the Voyager price, then I'd be looking for stuff around my house to sell! However, unless Moog could sell a poly for equal or lesser cost of a Voyager, I (personally) would not consider it.

In no way am I trying to talk smack about Moog either. They are one of the few companies I trust. I consider my Moog gear to be some of the most inspiring instruments I've ever played and have no regrets about any purchase. I will also say, that had I not been able to get money from my student loans, I would not have been able to afford their lovely gear for many years.

I am totally OK with them not doing a poly synth and continuing to build mono synths geared toward performance. I will always get more use out of a patchable mono thing than a poly "beast."

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:02 am
by EricK
Yeah,
If it hadn't been for income taxes ad credit lines last year I would still be sitting here with only a Micro, THeremin and a Ring Mod.

Look at the Korg Oaysis. Thats like an 8 thousand dollar unit. Its catered to people like Herbie Hancock. Maybe they could pump out a synth that costs what the Moog guitar does.

Look at Wendy Carlos's modular....it had some kind of polyphonic section

Image Im sure that while a modular thing isn't what people hailing for as a polysynth, they could definately do it.


A+ to the Moog stuff being so inspiring. Its one of the only Professional quality instruments that I own.

Re: What if MOOG MUSIC were to produce a new polophonic synt

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 10:45 am
by timmy
Christopher J. Boylan wrote: Now, my card slot thing for adding complex waveforms might be cool. I mean, think of a Memorymoog, but wtih LP type contol and the card slot just puts complex waveforms into the mix - sort of like the external signal input. You could insert, say a piano sound which would either replace or be added to the oscillators and could be manipulated fully by all of the synths features, i.e. envelopes, filter, etc. The only synth that was designed to do this kind of thing that I know of was the Korg DSS1, but it was a conventional black-box, parameter controlled design.
Wouldn't need a card slot so costs for R&D and manufacturing could further be reduced - use the USB port to load an infinite number of waveforms. And with a software interface you could create you own and share with friends (like me!).

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:13 pm
by Voltor07
I like the idea of USB expansion. Flash drive technology would be the way to go IMHO. Kind of like the PianoBar except with flash drives! :mrgreen:

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:06 pm
by LeRoi
EricK wrote:Im sure that while a modular thing isn't what people hailing for as a polysynth, they could definately do it.
I'd sell a kidney for a modular poly thing. Especially if it were actually called Modular Poly Thing.

Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 1:49 pm
by EricK
Well WHy can't you do it now? Kidneys are hot these days.

Id sell both my kidneys and donate about 9 or 10 pints of blood on top of that.