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104z a tonesucker
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:07 pm
by funkychorlton
of all the foogers i find the 104z the least satisfactory sonically: and least benifits from overdriving the input. I would like to be able to leave it engaged all the time and a bring the delay in and out using the mix control but i find the unaffected signal to be heavily compromised - when I hit the footswitch to bypass the signal quite noticibly springs back to life. I can't find an input level which matched the bypassed level and which is also fairly clean
seem to me this pedal is only satisfactory of an fx bus, which i don't use live
anyone else found this?
f
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:11 pm
by EricK
Is this a unity gain issue?
What is your input signal?
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:49 pm
by funkychorlton
my input signal is the mf102, somewhat overdriven
f
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:53 pm
by Bryan T
funkychorlton wrote:my input signal is the mf102, somewhat overdriven
f
With that setup, I would probably run the 104Z Drive control all the way down and use the Output Level control to get the volume right.
Bryan
Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:36 pm
by matt the fiddler
fwiw i usually run mine in a parallel loop, with it 100% wet... that takes care of any problem I could have with it.
Matt
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 3:44 pm
by funkychorlton
using the input at zero and the output at almost 100% gave a much better signal than I was getting before - it still doesn't sound quite as sparkling as when the unit is bypassed, but its a lot better
thanks for the tip
f
Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 6:22 pm
by Bryan T
funkychorlton wrote:using the input at zero and the output at almost 100% gave a much better signal than I was getting before - it still doesn't sound quite as sparkling as when the unit is bypassed, but its a lot better
thanks for the tip
f
You're welcome! In my experience, proper gainstaging is important to get the most out of the Moog pedals, especially when working with a passive instrument (like a guitar) and an amp that expects to see an instrument level signal (like a guitar amp). The Low Pass FIlter, in particular, can be tough to dial in in a guitar rig.
Bryan