does anyone here think we'll see them develope a new synth in the upcoming years? Personally, I'd like to see something similar to a rogue/prodigy/mg-1 come out...
oh yeah...and it wouldn't cost $2,500
looking into moog's future...
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That would be my choice as well. Hell, make it a synth workstation comparable to, say, a Kurzweil K2661. Of course, it has to be competitively priced and offer something that the other synth workstations don't have (other than the Moog nameplate).THM wrote:A 21st century Memorymoog.
And at the same time, the Research & Development costs have to be kept down as well. The Syntheziser History Museum is filled with companies who had great products and ideas, but they couldn't sell enough units to recoup their investment in R&D.
Minisynth module
I think it would be very nice if they made a Monosynth module with Midi to CV conversion. something like the Microcon II or the MFB Synth lite
2 x VCO's (Square, Triangle, Saw)
1 LFO (Square, Sine)
2 x VCF's (One panned to the left and the other to the right)
2 VCA (One panned to the left and the other to the right)
2 x EG's
Stereo input to the filter
Stereo output.
MIDI in
MIDI through
MIDI channel selector
CV/Gate out
Aux CV out
2 Cutoff CV out
Also would be nice to be able to link this little modules to create a poly synth
I'm sure something like this would sell for about $600 to $700, and I'll be the fist one in the store to buy one
2 x VCO's (Square, Triangle, Saw)
1 LFO (Square, Sine)
2 x VCF's (One panned to the left and the other to the right)
2 VCA (One panned to the left and the other to the right)
2 x EG's
Stereo input to the filter
Stereo output.
MIDI in
MIDI through
MIDI channel selector
CV/Gate out
Aux CV out
2 Cutoff CV out
Also would be nice to be able to link this little modules to create a poly synth
I'm sure something like this would sell for about $600 to $700, and I'll be the fist one in the store to buy one
Am I kidding?
I'm talking about a litlle compact module, It wouldn't be the same price of the Voyager because the Voyager has the keyboard controller, Fully implemented midi, touch-screen controller Pacth memory, 3 VCO's as opposed to 2, Dual Lowpass/Highpass-Lowpass and a lot of nice wood is used on the body.
In the module I have in mind the filters would be only lowpass, traditional 24db moog filters with resonance as opposed to those found in the Voyager.
I don't think i'm exagerating about the price maybe you could add up a couple $100's more just for being a Moog. But other competitors already have really nice things out there like the Microcon II from Technosaurus, Dave Smith Instruments' Evolver, 'The Black Coffe from Analog Solutions, and they all cost anywhere from $429 to $519. all people including me would prefer to buy a similar module sporting the Moog brand, and you'll know that by paying a little more, lets say$650-$750 you'll be getting that Moog sound designed by the man himself. but there's no way that anyone would pay more than $1000 for a module with this features:
2 x VCO's (Square, Triangle, Saw)
1 LFO (Square, Sine)
2 x VCF's (One panned to the left and the other to the right)
2 VCA (One panned to the left and the other to the right)
2 x EG's
Stereo input to the filter
Stereo output.
MIDI in
MIDI through
MIDI channel selector
CV/Gate out
Aux CV out
2 Cutoff CV out
Check out these pages and have a look at what's out there:
http://www.bigcitymusic.com/product.asp ... id=1000095
http://www.bigcitymusic.com/product.asp ... id=1000085
http://www.davesmithinstruments.com/
My favorite of the three is the Evolver from Dave Smith. I think it has too many good features and excellent quality for only $479, but I think I'm going to end up buying the MicroconII because you could use it as a Midi-to-CV converter and still has excellent sounds. In the end, if there was a Moog module with features like the ones all this modules have, I would go for the Moog module, even if I had to pay $700 for it, and if you wanna cut some features like all the CV out's you could make it compatible with the VX-351 Voyager expander and lower the cost of the module even more. I think my idea makes sense.
Peace
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In the module I have in mind the filters would be only lowpass, traditional 24db moog filters with resonance as opposed to those found in the Voyager.
I don't think i'm exagerating about the price maybe you could add up a couple $100's more just for being a Moog. But other competitors already have really nice things out there like the Microcon II from Technosaurus, Dave Smith Instruments' Evolver, 'The Black Coffe from Analog Solutions, and they all cost anywhere from $429 to $519. all people including me would prefer to buy a similar module sporting the Moog brand, and you'll know that by paying a little more, lets say$650-$750 you'll be getting that Moog sound designed by the man himself. but there's no way that anyone would pay more than $1000 for a module with this features:
2 x VCO's (Square, Triangle, Saw)
1 LFO (Square, Sine)
2 x VCF's (One panned to the left and the other to the right)
2 VCA (One panned to the left and the other to the right)
2 x EG's
Stereo input to the filter
Stereo output.
MIDI in
MIDI through
MIDI channel selector
CV/Gate out
Aux CV out
2 Cutoff CV out
Check out these pages and have a look at what's out there:
http://www.bigcitymusic.com/product.asp ... id=1000095
http://www.bigcitymusic.com/product.asp ... id=1000085
http://www.davesmithinstruments.com/
My favorite of the three is the Evolver from Dave Smith. I think it has too many good features and excellent quality for only $479, but I think I'm going to end up buying the MicroconII because you could use it as a Midi-to-CV converter and still has excellent sounds. In the end, if there was a Moog module with features like the ones all this modules have, I would go for the Moog module, even if I had to pay $700 for it, and if you wanna cut some features like all the CV out's you could make it compatible with the VX-351 Voyager expander and lower the cost of the module even more. I think my idea makes sense.
Peace
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I used to own a Microcon II.
It's a great sounding box, but it ain't no Voyager and there is a reason it is cheap. One VCO with suboscillator, a single AD EG with shared D/R and zero/full sustain switch, and pitiful modulation options.
The Black Coffee isn't much more sophisicated.
The only difference between the Voyager and your wish list is lack of the 3rd VCO, no patch storage, and no MIDI out. Have you any idea how much hardware there is on the Voyager analog voice board alone, which doesn't include the MIDI engine?
That's quite a stretch from the BK/Microcon and your wish list.
It's a great sounding box, but it ain't no Voyager and there is a reason it is cheap. One VCO with suboscillator, a single AD EG with shared D/R and zero/full sustain switch, and pitiful modulation options.
The Black Coffee isn't much more sophisicated.
The only difference between the Voyager and your wish list is lack of the 3rd VCO, no patch storage, and no MIDI out. Have you any idea how much hardware there is on the Voyager analog voice board alone, which doesn't include the MIDI engine?
That's quite a stretch from the BK/Microcon and your wish list.
Well what about the Vostok?
http://www.bigcitymusic.com/product.asp ... id=1000170
That thing looks fun and I like the matrix patch (pin) panel.
I would like to see a memorymoog, but if the voya is around 3k what's this baby going to cost?
http://www.bigcitymusic.com/product.asp ... id=1000170
That thing looks fun and I like the matrix patch (pin) panel.
I would like to see a memorymoog, but if the voya is around 3k what's this baby going to cost?