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I'm looking to expand my Voyager setup with some Moogerfoogers. I have a small rack with the VX-351 and CP-251 in it and I want to mount three foogers above that. I know I want the Phaser but am having a hard time deciding on the other two. I'm torn between the Ring Mod, Murf, and Freqbox. I'd be using them in a wide range of styles of music and also as external processing for other instruments. Adding additional filters with the Murf seems like a good idea but a lot of people seem to think the Murf sounds gets old quick. Or would adding another lowpass filter, the MF101, into my system be of more use? Any recommendations or advice would be appreciated.

To my taste, the two best MFs for processing a wide variety of sounds are the Ring Mod and the Low Pass Filter. But with two filters already in the Voyager, that might be overkill. So I'd say get the Ring Mod as one of them for sure.

As for the second, the Freq Box (in my experience) is only moderately useful as a processor of sounds, but it's *very* useful for expanding a synthesizer. With the CV out on the Voyager it gives you a fully functional fourth oscillator, along with more sync and FM possibilities.

So if it were me, I'd go with the Ring Mod and the Freq Box.

You didn't mention it, but the Analog Delay is wonderful. I could imagine it really working well with the Voyager due to the signal routing options, not to mention the CV. I second the Ring Mod recommendation.

Bryan

Bryan T wrote: I second the Ring Mod recommendation.
Bryan

Should I get a Ring Mod for my Little Phatty?

dave500 wrote:

Bryan T wrote: I second the Ring Mod recommendation.
Bryan

Should I get a Ring Mod for my Little Phatty?

I'm not sure if it is quite as useful with the LP. Can you send a CV note out from the Phatty? If so, then you could use the Ring Mod to track the LP, which could be very cool. Even if you can't, the Ring Mod is great for processing post-LP - great tremolo and ring mod sounds, plus you'd have another LFO for controlling the LP.

EDIT - And not to be the guy that says, 'do a search,' but there are a number of helpful threads in the Little Phatty forum that detail how folks use Moogerfoogers with their LP synths.

Bryan

Bryan T wrote:

dave500 wrote:

Bryan T wrote: I second the Ring Mod recommendation.
Bryan

Should I get a Ring Mod for my Little Phatty?

Can you send a CV note out from the Phatty?
Bryan

No I can't

Ext. Audio In (accepts +4dBu line level signal)
Pitch CV In (1 V/Oct)
Filter CV In
Volume CV In
Keyboard Gate In
MIDI In
MIDI Out

mosaiclive wrote:I'm looking to expand my Voyager setup with some Moogerfoogers. I have a small rack with the VX-351 and CP-251 in it and I want to mount three foogers above that. I know I want the Phaser but am having a hard time deciding on the other two. I'm torn between the Ring Mod, Murf, and Freqbox. ...Any recommendations or advice would be appreciated.

Check out the article called 'Lord of the Ring Mod'. It offers some good info and suggestions on how to make the best use of the Ring Modulator with the Voyager. It might help you decide.

Find it here: https://www.moogmusic.com/members/?sect ... file_id=41

Well My first FOoger was the RingMod. I bought it speciffically for the Fender Rhodes, whose tremelo pot had gone out. I ended up buying the ones you see below in my signature and Im scheduled to receive the 107 and the cp251 from Fed Ex today.

I really was interested in the Phaser but my goal was to expand my MicroMoog's single Oscillator. So I think that what you will find is that once you get one, you will eventually want them all, especially since you already have the Cp-251.

Im also sure that if you purchased one and didn't like it for some reason then you could get rid of it quickly on ebay or on here.

If you are looking to expand your voyager then consider what the other modules have to offer, the Freq has its VCO and an Envelope Follower, the Ring Mod has its Carrier Osc and another LFO. THe Phaser has its LFO.

I think the Murf is probably cooler than everyone who doesn't have one expects, its just that the demos on youtube tend to go to the extremes and they don't test it out with different instruments and they also don't get on the subtleties of its use.

Whichever Fooger you end up purchasing, you will wonder how you survived this long without it. Plus, when you have a second panel on your tabletop or rack that begins to grow, you will definately want them all.


EricK

Thanks for all the great advice. I'm leaning toward the "All in One" package deal #3 that includes the Ring Mod, Phaser, and MuRF. That seems like a great set of 'modules' to expand the Voyager. I just wonder if another dedicated filter of some kind might be more useful than three FX boxes? I know I've already got LP filters in the Voyager, but I wonder if having the MF-101 at the end of the chain of foogers might be more interesting?

Im sure it woudl be neat hehe.

Youll probably want to mount the Cp-251 and the VX 351 above the foogers though for a few reasons.

1. CHeaper to have shorter cables
2. Cables will be hanging in front of the panel controls
3. The Foogers have their patchpoints on the top...closer to the CP/VX
4. Less tangles with shorter cables


Not everyone does it like that though, its just what you think will look cooler hehehe.

I think fedex changed their delivery date back to tomorrow. My foogers are just sitting in a warehouse in little rock...i could just drive there and get them in like 2 hours.

EricK

mosaiclive wrote:I just wonder if another dedicated filter of some kind might be more useful than three FX boxes? I know I've already got LP filters in the Voyager, but I wonder if having the MF-101 at the end of the chain of foogers might be more interesting?

On the Voyager you can always run stuff back into it using the mix in to get to the Voyager filter. Although the LPF is definitely a nice MF to have as well I really like the sound of the Voyager going through the Frostwave Resonator (MS-20 clone) filter. It contains both a high and low pass and has CV inputs. Samples on my web site below on the main page and also under the freqbox demo area.

mosaiclive wrote:Thanks for all the great advice. I'm leaning toward the "All in One" package deal #3 that includes the Ring Mod, Phaser, and MuRF. That seems like a great set of 'modules' to expand the Voyager. I just wonder if another dedicated filter of some kind might be more useful than three FX boxes? I know I've already got LP filters in the Voyager, but I wonder if having the MF-101 at the end of the chain of foogers might be more interesting?

If you're considering another filter, you might want to look at a multi-mode filter. A multi-mode filter would give you many more sound options, since these types of filters have LP, HP, BP and possibly other filter types (Notch?).

But a multi-mode filter won't do what a Ring Modulator will do for your sound (FWIW, I consider a Ring Mod to be an essential addition to the Voyager). Ditto for the MuRF and Phaser. And don't forget that all 'Foogers have CV connections which greatly enhance their capabilities when used in a CV system.

Personally, I'd go for the 'All-in one'.

Thanks Greg, I think I will start with the All-in-one package. When I do want to look into another filter to add to my setup, is there a multi-mode filter you, or anyone else, can recommend? I can't wait to put my order in!

Try a Sherman Filterbank

For my preferences, I would start with package 1 and add the murf later. Its a great pedal, but having the 101 first can make the MURF even better.
I think All-in-one package 1 or 3 would be the way to go.
It boils down to Murf vs 101LPF.

Multi-mode filters:
Cheaper: Electrix Flterfactory, great sound and usability several modes!
More $$: The Sherman Filterbank II: Awesome multi-mode monster with so much more to offer....