Os 2.1
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:52 pm
Wow check this out, OS2.1 is now available, just go to the downloads area of the AE Voyager. gonna load mine now. Was this sneaky or what?
regards
KJM
regards
KJM
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Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 10:58 pm
Not much more...just some thing renamed. And make sure to ead the instructions to adjust you pitch wheel trim pot! I don't wanna read about how this update messes this up. It's the last page of the instructions!
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 2:42 am
Hello,
very nice, these improvements.
> Not much more...
> just some thing renamed
That wasn't my impression. Look at Pot Mapping for example. Now, every time you change any value you can hear the results without leaving that mode, thanks. Or the Mod Wheel, its actual value is used when you change to another preset ...
The very new "edited" display (asterisks left and right side) that remembers you to store the preset if you like your changes ...
And did you observe that really every pot changes from 0 to 255 (!), never realized before? Very nice improvements, really.
Last not least the "Compare Function" that really does what you can expect from, thanks.
(Maybe I'd forgotten some of the improved features.)
Many thanks to Moog Music
very nice, these improvements.
> Not much more...
> just some thing renamed
That wasn't my impression. Look at Pot Mapping for example. Now, every time you change any value you can hear the results without leaving that mode, thanks. Or the Mod Wheel, its actual value is used when you change to another preset ...
The very new "edited" display (asterisks left and right side) that remembers you to store the preset if you like your changes ...
And did you observe that really every pot changes from 0 to 255 (!), never realized before? Very nice improvements, really.
Last not least the "Compare Function" that really does what you can expect from, thanks.
(Maybe I'd forgotten some of the improved features.)
Many thanks to Moog Music
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 3:36 am
The improvements are welcome, but is it just me or does anybody else feel a little uneasy when you're required to open up the Voyager for something?
My pitch bend amount didn't increase after the install but I didn't notice before and after the V2.1 install it was reading -1. I just changed it back to 0. I know you're supposed to avoid them, but what do the "ZERO" an "MOD" pots do (for informational purposes only)? I noticed when my mod wheel is all the way down I still get a value of 001. Is it supposed to read 000? All the way up, 255.
Also, I can't get up to 255 on any front panel pot except the Master and Headphone volumes. Maximum for me is 254.
My pitch bend amount didn't increase after the install but I didn't notice before and after the V2.1 install it was reading -1. I just changed it back to 0. I know you're supposed to avoid them, but what do the "ZERO" an "MOD" pots do (for informational purposes only)? I noticed when my mod wheel is all the way down I still get a value of 001. Is it supposed to read 000? All the way up, 255.
Also, I can't get up to 255 on any front panel pot except the Master and Headphone volumes. Maximum for me is 254.
Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 8:19 pm
monads,
I think it's cool when you get open up the MMV to do things to it.
...and I do think you're right. OS 2.1 is a pretty cool improvement over OS 2.
I think it's cool when you get open up the MMV to do things to it.
...and I do think you're right. OS 2.1 is a pretty cool improvement over OS 2.
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:08 am
I was a bit nervous when I had to install the output thingy for the VX-351. didn't like the idea of messing with the ribbon connecter in there. that thing was kind of hard to remove, but it was worth it. The VX-351 friggin' rules!!! Which reminds me....
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:27 am
Yea, it's cool to open up and see the inner workings, but scarry at the same time. Just don't want to screw something up 
Does anyone know about the MOD and ZERO pots? And can someone else comfirm the 255 vs. 254 dilema?
Does anyone know about the MOD and ZERO pots? And can someone else comfirm the 255 vs. 254 dilema?
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 1:58 am
Hi monads,
the MMV is a real analogue instrument, and if you have a look into an electronic store you'll see that it isn't easy to get electronic components with an tolerance less then about 0.1%. Potentiometers you'll find with such of about 1% or maybe 0.5% (1 digit [missing] out of a range of 0...255 is equivalent to 0.4%!).
I think this it's kind of characteristic of a real analogue instrument that there stay some differences between different instruments ...
That' s no fault in a common sense.
If you'd tested it before OS 2.1 you should have seen a lot of variations (some pots went from 0 to 250 only) and I think they found a systematic way to improve it a lot.
If you have further questions about this you should contact Tech Support (from the CONTACT menu of the Moog Music's home page).
the MMV is a real analogue instrument, and if you have a look into an electronic store you'll see that it isn't easy to get electronic components with an tolerance less then about 0.1%. Potentiometers you'll find with such of about 1% or maybe 0.5% (1 digit [missing] out of a range of 0...255 is equivalent to 0.4%!).
I think this it's kind of characteristic of a real analogue instrument that there stay some differences between different instruments ...
That' s no fault in a common sense.
If you'd tested it before OS 2.1 you should have seen a lot of variations (some pots went from 0 to 250 only) and I think they found a systematic way to improve it a lot.
If you have further questions about this you should contact Tech Support (from the CONTACT menu of the Moog Music's home page).
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:06 pm
Thanks Frank. I know I may sound concerned at times, this is just my first experience with a true analog synth.
Posted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 8:08 pm
My updating experience: my Anniversary required a pitch bend adjustment back from +4, but Eeeeevil Signature Voyager #4 was good to go after the 2.1 update. Both had been on for a while before the procedure.
Just goes to show ya...something, not sure what :-)
--Cikira
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Just goes to show ya...something, not sure what :-)
--Cikira
SynthSights! it's not about the gear
groups.yahoo.com/group/SynthSights
Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 2:55 pm
I just updated from 2.0 to 2.1 !
Nice to see those 2.1 fixes (Pot-Mapping) and clearer LCD lables.
The adjusting of the pitchwheel center was a 3 min job for a first timer.
It's nice to see the trimmers being labled. This makes me belive that an average tech freak will be able to service my Voyager when it will be as old as my 1979 Minimoog.
BTW: Is there a service manual available?
Or a detailed calibration manual?
Just in case...
Nice to see those 2.1 fixes (Pot-Mapping) and clearer LCD lables.
The adjusting of the pitchwheel center was a 3 min job for a first timer.
It's nice to see the trimmers being labled. This makes me belive that an average tech freak will be able to service my Voyager when it will be as old as my 1979 Minimoog.
BTW: Is there a service manual available?
Or a detailed calibration manual?
Just in case...
Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 3:36 pm
I'd like to have one too. It'll be too expensive to ship the Voyager from Finland for a simple calibration or other service job than to do it locally with a good service manual. I don't need one yet but I'm going to use the Voyager for years.Qwave wrote:BTW: Is there a service manual available?
Or a detailed calibration manual?
Just in case...
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 8:05 am
Yeah me 3!!
heh my pitch wheel was also +4
heh my pitch wheel was also +4
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 12:49 pm
I'm too scared to open it. With my luck I'll really mess the Voyager up. 
I have been meaning to update my Voyager for a few months, I'll have to get a Midi cable first.
I have been meaning to update my Voyager for a few months, I'll have to get a Midi cable first.Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2004 11:19 pm
If you are concerned then here is a tip: Have the voyager turned off, then remove the 2 screws, pull out the wood block, pull the metal cover toward you then gently flip the plate up to expose the surface mount trim pots on the underside of the plate pcb, make sure there is no possible way for any shorting out of the components. Once you are sure all is good to go , turn the voyager back on and continue with the procedure. Least that way there is no chance you can mess it up since the unit is off during dissasembly.
Take it easy
Take it easy