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Tenori-On for those seeking a serious step sequencer
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:00 pm
by Lengai
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:47 pm
by Bryan B
That is cool.
I think I would rather get the new Monome though. I don't really want the sounds, just the controller.
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:09 pm
by Lengai
They are both nice. I'm not sure what the Monome is going for. The Tenori-On goes for about $500-$600 I believe. I think they're being sold in the UK. It is limited in it's sampling power, but the sequencer is very nice, and the lights would be sweet for a gig if you had a mount (maybe plexiglass) so you could use it where the audience could see it.
Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:10 pm
by Bryan B
I do love the back-lit design and how it animates as you play with it. Definitely cool.
The monome costs vary with the number of buttons/pads:
* two fifty six: $1400
* one twenty eight: $800
* sixty four: $450
http://monome.org/
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:17 am
by brain_11
Tenori-On is about $1200. Bloody expensive for a not very sophisticated sequencer. Read the not very positive opinions on Matrixsynth.
http://matrixsynth.blogspot.com/search?q=tenori
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:53 am
by MarkM
Is it easy to get MIDI out of a Menome?
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:43 am
by Bryan B
I am not completely sure if it has a midi out or not. It does have a USB out so you can use it to control many things and eventually output it as midi if you have midi out from your computer and a program like Ableton Live.
This guy presented his Monome for the last synth club meeting. They didn't have any to sell him, so he bought the kit and assembled it himself. He said that he found a bunch of fun stuff on the forums that use the Monome. He showed us a program that took the mic input of his laptop and gave a visual EQ display across the buttons. He also showed how you could use it with Ableton Live as a real time interactive sequencer that ran in tandem with the program. A row of buttons lit up vertically to show the cursor position scrolling. He had another program called flip that would take a sample and cut it into 8 equal chunks and allow you to manipulate each slice like a recycle loop in Reason.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 5:33 pm
by nathan
i like the monom better too. the tenori on is a bit visually overloaded.
i like minimal thing. but i dont like computers, so the sampling from a flashcard in the tenori-on is quite nice. you could do a whole interesting gig with only that one thing.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 6:25 pm
by Lengai
nathan wrote:i like the monom better too. the tenori on is a bit visually overloaded.
i like minimal thing. but i dont like computers, so the sampling from a flashcard in the tenori-on is quite nice. you could do a whole interesting gig with only that one thing.
It also has a 256 preset sound bank from the Yamaha Motif to go with the sampling.
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:39 am
by dr_floyd
There is a video on the Sonicstate site where the guy from Yamaha says it does NOT have sounds from the Motif, only specifically designed sounds.
Also, the Tenori-on can play back samples loaded from the memory card, but it has no provision to sample from it's own hardware. The single MIDI connector is for both IN and OUT using a splitter cable.
Except for the price, it looks pretty interesting. I just wonder if there is much bass response. All the demos seem to use soft trebly sounds, nothing aggressive or filtered.
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 12:47 am
by ikazlar
How about this one?
www.infectionmusic.co.uk
Take a look at the Zeit sequencer, both rack and desktop, it seems to be a very interesting machine..
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:26 pm
by Bryan B
Funny you mention the Zeit! I have been drooling over that for a while now (except the pricetag).
The monome 256 would be able to control 16 sequences with 16 steps each all at once. The Tenori-on would do 8 I believe. The zeit has 8 as well, but brings more control per sequence which is probably better. But software could/or maybe already has been made to make the monome control more. I think there are different modes on the Monome that you can get into to make it control more on the fly.
I like the look of the Zeit more, I am a sucker for knobs I guess.
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:35 pm
by latigid on
If anyone is into DIY, check out
http://www.ucapps.de/midibox_seq.html
The site is pretty confusing; it took me a while to work out how to navigate it, but there are some pretty cool/useful looking projects there. Link above points to the sequencer. It seems to work in a similar way to the other units mentioned on this thread, and may even be more versatile with software/hardware updates.
Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:08 pm
by Bryan B
ucaps=awesome! There are a lot of great options out there, and they are all coming up here 1 by 1. I personally can only soldier things like speaker terminals or minor synth part replacements. If I made any of the ucaps stuff, it would most likely never turn on. I am trying to take on more advanced projects, so maybe someday I will try it.
Any more?
