Matriarch patch not matching what I saw in video.

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Jelom
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Matriarch patch not matching what I saw in video.

Post by Jelom » Fri Nov 10, 2023 11:54 pm

https://youtu.be/9CeuGpxOu0g?t=362

The patch above I've been trying to replicate (@6:02). I have all the knobs, switches, buttons, and patch points exactly the same; even the sequence and tempo the same; but on mine it sounds really out of tune at points and not as echo-y as the video. Is there some global setting that would cause this much of a difference?

Also, how is his sequence playing even though the HOLD button is off?

synthpeter
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Re: Matriarch patch not matching what I saw in video.

Post by synthpeter » Mon Nov 13, 2023 3:39 am

If it doesn't sound as echo-y as in the video, that's probably due to an echo, delay or reverb effect that's not mentioned. Happens a lot in videos showcasing a synth or a patch.

As with any analog synth, there is some variation in the components. That causes identical dial settings on two synths not giving exactly the same sound. You may want to slightly tweak the settings to get your VCOs to be in tune. It also helps to allow the synth to warm up a bit first, because that also will affect tuning.

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Re: Matriarch patch not matching what I saw in video.

Post by pmumble » Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:34 pm

I'm guessing that the VCA is set to drone? I don't see any other way for something to be playing.

Jelom
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Re: Matriarch patch not matching what I saw in video.

Post by Jelom » Tue Nov 14, 2023 8:33 pm

synthpeter wrote: Mon Nov 13, 2023 3:39 am If it doesn't sound as echo-y as in the video, that's probably due to an echo, delay or reverb effect that's not mentioned. Happens a lot in videos showcasing a synth or a patch.
He says this is only the Matriarch. No added effects.
pmumble wrote: Tue Nov 14, 2023 6:34 pm I'm guessing that the VCA is set to drone? I don't see any other way for something to be playing.
I tried using drone but it doesn't keep the sequence running. Weird. I'll just use Hold since I dont think it would effect anything too differently.

I actually found that the patch in the video is in a patchbook he shared. Here's the patch. When I dial it in exactly it sounds so so off. Of course I'm messing with the attenuator knob and delay time knob and spacing, but still having trouble finding a spot where the Time In CV modulation sounds musical throughout. Maybe try this patch yourself to see if it's close for you.
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Re: Matriarch patch not matching what I saw in video.

Post by pmumble » Thu Nov 16, 2023 12:42 pm

My Matriarch is patched up for recording right now but I'll try this when I'm done with this song if noone else can. (might be a few days) I've been meaning to work through that patchbook anyway.

Jelom
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Re: Matriarch patch not matching what I saw in video.

Post by Jelom » Thu Nov 16, 2023 1:06 pm

I don't think my image worked.... Here's the patch: https://imgur.com/a/lLFVKOb

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Re: Matriarch patch not matching what I saw in video.

Post by Jelom » Tue Dec 05, 2023 12:58 pm

bump? Still interested in dialing in this patch correctly :oops:

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Re: Matriarch patch not matching what I saw in video.

Post by pmumble » Tue Dec 05, 2023 2:47 pm

I was feeling bad I hadn't gotten to this - mine's still patched. :|

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Re: Matriarch patch not matching what I saw in video.

Post by Clootenti » Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:56 pm

It's weird how small variations can mess things up. As for the sequence playing without the HOLD button, maybe there's some trick or hidden feature we're missing.

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Re: Matriarch patch not matching what I saw in video.

Post by dangerous » Thu Dec 21, 2023 6:48 am

There is, you turn off Sequence Keyboard Control in the global settings.

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Re: Matriarch patch not matching what I saw in video.

Post by pmumble » Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:20 am

I think dangerous nailed it. Thanks - this was confusing me too.

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