Model D old oscillator board dead OSC1
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2023 4:48 pm
Hi all!
I have a 1981 model D S/N 11000+, so originally it comes with the "new oscillator board" (uA726 board). The Moog is fully functional with this oscillator board.
I have bought an "old oscillator board" (CA3046 board) from about S/N 5500 that I want to use in this Minimoog (read carefully: retrofit an OLD board in a 11000+ Model D). This old board was of unknown functionality so I had to do some repairs. These repairs were succesful (replacing a 741 to inverse OSC3 CV signal, cleaning edge contacts and reflowing all solder joints to improve pitch stability). Now OSC3 works fine, OSC2 as well and both are stable.
HOWEVER... Before I did the work, OSC1 was functional albeit a tiny bit unstable at times. After I did the other repairs, OSC1 is dead. I don't think it's a bad contact at the edge connectors. There are two possible causes I can see: either I did something wrong when reflowing all solder joints, though I've inspected it carefully and I doubt it. Or, and this is more likely: when reseating the CA3046, I accidentally installed the top one backwards. I have since replaced both CA3046, but I'm afraid I've killed another component when the synth was powered on with the IC2 CA3046 in backwards.
OSC1 seems to be oscillating nowhere in the circuit: when measuring IC2 pin 5 (directly connected to capacitor C1) I see no waveform. What I do see there is a negative DC that increases negatively with pitch. Something like -2.70V at LO setting lowest note to -5.63V at 2' setting highest note (I might have to check the exact values). I also see this DC fluctuating at OSC3's rate when I enable pitch modification. So the oscillator appears to get the CV signals and output something related on IC2, but it appears to be unable to oscillate. -4V, -10V and +10V are all available at IC3.
I hope anyone here can help me find which component(s) died. I have a multimeter, an analog oscilloscope, soldering iron, desoldering iron, Chinese component tester, limited electronics knowledge.
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(related info: for this retrofit, I would have to ADD the 90.9 ohm R58 at the OSC1 range panel pot. I have not yet done this, but from my pre-disaster tests it appeared to not need this to generate sound. Another small issue I have with this board, but of low priority unless related to the main problem: the frequency panel pot of OSC2 is way too sensitive/has a way too large range. I don't know if that's also related to the missing R58 or something else is going on there. It's fine with the new oscillator board, but with the old one way too much range. I can't remember if this was already acting like this pre-disaster. OSC3 frequency panel pot works as espected.)
I have a 1981 model D S/N 11000+, so originally it comes with the "new oscillator board" (uA726 board). The Moog is fully functional with this oscillator board.
I have bought an "old oscillator board" (CA3046 board) from about S/N 5500 that I want to use in this Minimoog (read carefully: retrofit an OLD board in a 11000+ Model D). This old board was of unknown functionality so I had to do some repairs. These repairs were succesful (replacing a 741 to inverse OSC3 CV signal, cleaning edge contacts and reflowing all solder joints to improve pitch stability). Now OSC3 works fine, OSC2 as well and both are stable.
HOWEVER... Before I did the work, OSC1 was functional albeit a tiny bit unstable at times. After I did the other repairs, OSC1 is dead. I don't think it's a bad contact at the edge connectors. There are two possible causes I can see: either I did something wrong when reflowing all solder joints, though I've inspected it carefully and I doubt it. Or, and this is more likely: when reseating the CA3046, I accidentally installed the top one backwards. I have since replaced both CA3046, but I'm afraid I've killed another component when the synth was powered on with the IC2 CA3046 in backwards.
OSC1 seems to be oscillating nowhere in the circuit: when measuring IC2 pin 5 (directly connected to capacitor C1) I see no waveform. What I do see there is a negative DC that increases negatively with pitch. Something like -2.70V at LO setting lowest note to -5.63V at 2' setting highest note (I might have to check the exact values). I also see this DC fluctuating at OSC3's rate when I enable pitch modification. So the oscillator appears to get the CV signals and output something related on IC2, but it appears to be unable to oscillate. -4V, -10V and +10V are all available at IC3.
I hope anyone here can help me find which component(s) died. I have a multimeter, an analog oscilloscope, soldering iron, desoldering iron, Chinese component tester, limited electronics knowledge.
***********
(related info: for this retrofit, I would have to ADD the 90.9 ohm R58 at the OSC1 range panel pot. I have not yet done this, but from my pre-disaster tests it appeared to not need this to generate sound. Another small issue I have with this board, but of low priority unless related to the main problem: the frequency panel pot of OSC2 is way too sensitive/has a way too large range. I don't know if that's also related to the missing R58 or something else is going on there. It's fine with the new oscillator board, but with the old one way too much range. I can't remember if this was already acting like this pre-disaster. OSC3 frequency panel pot works as espected.)