Moog Music Forum

OK, so I'm playing the violin (or whatever) through a Murf, and have only two hands and it's taking forever to fool around with the different settings on the Murf. So, would a "noise generator" free up my hands, so to speak, from the instrument so I could fool with the settings on the Murf? Particularly the sliders, I suppose, since much can be done with the expression pedals. If so, where would I get one? I understand the CP 25 Control Processor has a noise generator but is that overkill? Can someone suggest something like a noise generator? The idea is to find a setting on the Murf first, before I even pick up the instrument to play through it.

Thanks,

Jeff

I think you'd be better off with a delay pedal/looper. You can play the part into the looper and then have hands-free access to tweaking the sound of the MuRF. Additionally, you'll have a delay pedal/looper for other uses, whereas a noise source might not have much utility in your current setup.

Bryan

A Noise generator from a CP-251 works fantastic with the MuRF if you want analog drum sounds/beats

Jeff Tanner wrote:OK, so I'm playing the violin (or whatever) through a Murf, and have only two hands and it's taking forever to fool around with the different settings on the Murf. So, would a "noise generator" free up my hands, so to speak, from the instrument so I could fool with the settings on the Murf? Particularly the sliders, I suppose, since much can be done with the expression pedals. If so, where would I get one? I understand the CP 25 Control Processor has a noise generator but is that overkill? Can someone suggest something like a noise generator? The idea is to find a setting on the Murf first, before I even pick up the instrument to play through it.

Thanks,

Jeff

You might try recording yourself playing the instrument, then play that recording back through the MuRF while you adjust the controls. This should give you a very accurate indication of the various ways the MuRF can alter your sound - much better than using a noise generator, IMO.

- G

i think all 8 sliders need CV input

for violin [depending on the style/ speed], I like to us 8-B, the Pulsar setting playing fast fiddle music [irish or bluegrass in my case] with the strong envelope chopping and grooving removes some of the slides and bow attacks. I just set the tempo, and play to the groove- envelope setting aroudn 2 plus or minus. 8-B creates the strongest sence of a pulse to line up with the groove that I work with.

That is worth a try..


Other than that.. IF you can play open string sustains depending on the style or song, you can play with some of the other nice features, if it is in hands reach.

I don't have a murf, but when I'm tweaking my moogerfoogers I run a keyboard that has some kind of autoplay function through them just to get an idea what my sound outcome will be. I use the "hold" and "arpeggio" functions on my Juno 60, but the mode on cheap casios that play songs might work, if you just want to free up your hands to mess around with sort of random sound sources.

The delay/loop pedal is a great idea, though.

I think the delay/looper pedal is a great idea and can allow you to tweak a lot. I'll suggest the Boss DD-20. They're relatively cheap and if you use the delay settings to loop you can actually turn down the regeneration so you can fade out old parts of the loop and go in a new direction (haven't seen this feature with the other cheap loopers...). You have all of the different delay functions too

If you want a cheap substitution for a noise source, use radio static. I like to use old analogue tuners (not the newer digital ones) set to am.

I was just hopping on to suggest radio static, and there it is! Yes! A cheapo tuner turned to a non station can make some fine noise. And you can always twist through real stations for some unexpected results!

Thanks for the suggestions. I'm going to record myself on the digital recorder and then try to play it back through the Murf. Seems simple enough if I can find the right cable to connect them.