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which roland synth should i sell
Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 11:46 pm
by godzilla
THIS IS NOT AN ADD
i think i might need to sell one of my synths to help pay for the Little Phatty
the two i'm thinking of selling are:
a blue sh 101
and a juno 60 with aluminium roadcase
both are in good condition
yeah which do you guys think i would regret selling the most, and how much do think i could get for each one?
thanks
Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 12:16 am
by roboctopus
This is biased, but I have a Juno-60. I love it. I'd sell my prodigy (and probably will to buy a phatty) before I sold my 60. Sell the 101. The 60 has its own sound that nothing else really has (and it does a pretty darn fine organ impersonation...with a little leslie they can sing) and they look cool. The first round of Phatty samples showed it could bring the acid, which is what the 101 is know for. Ditch the 101, let the phatty drop the acid, and keep the 60 for when you need it to do its Juno thing, or when you need to impersonate Grandaddy.
My two cents, anyway. (You might get a little more for the 101, too.)
Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 1:04 am
by Keith collins
i 2nd the 101.
the juno is so much more useful.
sh-101 = $375-$500
juno 60 = $275-$450
those prices are what i've seen them for here in seattle.
Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 3:07 am
by goldphinga
Yep ditch the 101. The phatty will wipe the floor with it! The Juno is still versatile and is of course polyphonic.
Obvious to me.

Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 7:30 am
by godzilla
thanks guys
yeah i think it makes more sense to sell the 101
funnily enough i don't use it for acid, i like all the mod routings it can do, i think the sh 101 is a perfect example of a synth that makes the most of what its got
things like being able to use noise as a mod source really make it a great synth
i will have to pick up a cp 251 if the phatty is to replace my 101, but i was going to do that anyway, just not right away
i think the juno 60 is a perfect example of a synth that doesn't make good use of its features, there's not that much to explore but it is a ploy and it can sing quite nicely if pushed
Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 6:08 pm
by Boeing 737-400
I never really got on with the SH101. But are the blue ones supposed to be rare, and can the colour drastically raise the price of a standard SH-101?
Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 8:27 pm
by godzilla
they are somewhat rare, and the price is a bit higher, i mean it's blue (looks really cool) rather than the dull grey they normally are.
it's really fun to play just cause it looks so darn cool, but there you go
it is a bit flimsy though, feels like one soft throw against the wall would break it in 2
but my jupiter4, you'd need to kamehameha that one to break it!
Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 11:07 pm
by Boeing 737-400
but my jupiter4, you'd need to kamehameha that one to break it!
I think I did that to my best friend in a computer game. Took several attempts but I won as usual. Somebody did it to my Polymoog while it was being delivered to me.
Polymoog Keyboard. Weapon of choice in fights. Pick it up, drop it on someone, job done! Solid on the outside, but rather flimsy internally.
According to Vintagesynth, the white SH101 is the most rare one. What's the best way to paint plastic?

Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 8:34 am
by Rogue
I would say keep both, and just add the Phatty. Then decide which of the two Rolands you could do without. But if you need to sell one to finance the Phatty... not sure my advice is worth anything
I thought there was no proof of any white SH-101s existing? As in, there are no photographs of one. Kind of like Bigfoot or the Loch Ness monster

Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 4:44 pm
by Boeing 737-400
Now you've said that, someone might decide to do a bit of that clever image manipulation stuff that seems so popular at the moment, and "proof" of a white SH-101 will exist.
If it's white, what colour is the text on the panel supposed to be?
Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 5:39 pm
by Lengai
I've seen red 101's before too.
Hindsight is $$
Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 8:39 pm
by PapaJimH
Man, I wish I could get back some of the wonderful analog synths I sold for peanuts back in the day, just to get stupid stuff like "rent money" when I was in college. My thinking was always "This thing will be obsolete soon anyways". D'oh!
101 vs juno
Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 4:18 pm
by eric coleridge
Sell either one. They're both easy to come by because Roland made thousands of them. It's not like you'll have a hard time replacing either one if you decide you want to buy another at some later time.
The 101 has a little more pizzaz, to my (h)ears. I think it has to do with the sub-oscillators and it's PW, but it has a very interesting glassy shimmering sound that is hard to re-produce on other synths. It's quite beutiful and very different than a typical Moog sound. Most Japanese synths and virtually every polyphonic synth use microchips for their VCOs and VCFs (among other things) and have a different tone than most Moogs or Arps and others which use discrete electronics (transistors and such) for their VCOs and VCFs. Many people describe it as the Moog sound vs the Sequential Circuits sound.
I don't agree with the postings above that say the Juno is particularly unique. Although it is a very functional synth with polyphony and arpeggio, etc., I think it's sound is fairly common and in some ways lacking depth. However, if you have to sell one to finance the LP, I guess it makes more sence to sell the 101, as it's mono like the LP. Plus, you can sell the blue 101s for much more than they're worth. They can sell for as much as $1000 if you're willing to wait for the right buyer. Then you can turn around and buy a grey one for $350.
Sound is, of course, subjective. Many people get very hung up on owning every single synth in order to be able to produce every possible synth sound; But, generally speaking, any two synths with the same basic features (and most do have the same basic features) can be made to sound convinsingly similar to the average listener. So, even though the LP is probably a much better synth than the 101 (again it's relative), you could end up finding that you were better off keeping the 101 and saving your money for a better amp.
Sacrilege, I know. But I've owned a lot of different synths and I find when ever I replace one synth with a different one, I lose as much as I gain. Even the lowly Rogue has some merrits above an Odyssey or Jupiter. And all three could be mistaken for one another in certain contexts.
It ultimately come down to which synth feels the best to you. The problem is, you can't experience this until you actually buy it (sinse most synths can't be found in music stores anymore). The LP will be in stores soon though, and my advice is to wait until you play it before selling either of your Rolands. Then decide which ones play the best.
Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 9:06 pm
by digitalemotion
sell me the juno 60 cause i want it.
Sell the 101
Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 3:05 pm
by Orpheus9
I had the random fortune of scoring a 101 for about $100 in 1989. I sold it a few months ago on eBay for over $600...and that was just the boring gray one. So red will probably fetch a bit more, and blue even more than that.
Given how limited the single-oscillator 101 really is in today's analog and/or VA market, selling that to finance your Phatty is a great choice.