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Hi all,

I recently bought a Sub 37. Apart from it's incredible sound, its vast array of knobs and buttons make it a great controller for my diverse soft synths. Thanks to the MIDI-learn function that most soft synths nowadays have, setup is generally fairly easy when it comes to quickly assigning knobs, buttons and encoders.
However where it gets tricky is when you want to assign a certain range of values to those knobs or if you have a button that you just want to act as a simple on/off toggle. Usually what happens is that pressing the button turns a function off but not back on. That brings me to my question:

Is there any way to define what type of MIDI message or value range a knob or button of the Sub37 puts out?

I'm kind of a noob when it comes to the intricacies of MIDI and I couldn't find anything in the general manual or the mapping page of the editor.

Any help appreciated.
Thanks!

ruekin wrote: Is there any way to define what type of MIDI message or value range a knob or button of the Sub37 puts out?

No, there isn't. I think that would be outside the scope of the Sub 37 - this is a feature that is only found on dedicated programmable Midi controllers.

However, there is a piece of software, MIDI Translator Pro (perhaps other similar software exist too(?)), that lets you do extensive processing on MIDI messages, like running math expressions and tiny programs to transform them and perform various actions. It may be overkill for your situation though.

Thanks, DrJustice! I had a feeling that might be a bit too much to ask. To be fair, the Sub 37's midi implementation is pretty good otherwise. I'll look into a MIDI translator program just to see if this would be of any help or whether it would make things just more complicated. Luckily there seems to be a trial version for the MIDI Translator Pro. Thanks for the link!

If you have a Windows machine, I believe the free program MIDI-OX will do the simple range mapping that you want. I don't think it can resolve your on/off button issue, though, because that probably requires being able to store a state variable to keep track of and trigger the desired on/off event. MIDI Translator Pro may allow you to do that but I'm not familiar with that software.

It sounds like you're good with a software solution, but if you decide you would prefer a small hardware solution, check out the MIDI Solutions Event Processor. It can be programmed to do a lot, from range mapping, to storing variables, to triggering new events from given events to change the functions of things:
http://www.midisolutions.com/products.htm