Discontinuation of MF-107 and MF-105m

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Discontinuation of MF-107 and MF-105m

Post by aaronharmon » Wed Apr 29, 2015 2:39 pm

I just read that Moog was DC the MF-107 and MF-105M. That's a shame, the 105M is a classic pedal.

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Re: Discontinuation of MF-107 and MF-105m

Post by Alien8 » Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:12 pm

I'm really hoping they fix the editor and plugin before they totally drop it. I have been waiting to be able to save presets for some time now. Sound tower continuously insisits that the app does save, and yet it doesn't on my computer. Glad to see the firmware was fixed!!

PLEASE MOOG, have the bugs removed before dropping it, so it can remain an awesome piece of gear.
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Re: Discontinuation of MF-107 and MF-105m

Post by benulous » Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:18 pm

I'm glad I got my hands on my white MidiMURF when I did (very recently)! The Freqbox never found a place in my setup, though - although it's been something I'd kept my eyes out for in case I ran across a deal...

Is anyone else a little surprised that these are the pedals they're discontinuing? I kinda figured it would be the Clusterflux or Delays since the BBD chips seemed to be originally presented as far more limited. Any thoughts on what they'll be coming out with next to replace these guys in the line up?
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Re: Discontinuation of MF-107 and MF-105m

Post by slabwax » Wed Apr 29, 2015 3:59 pm

The 107 make sense to me. Introduce a 107M. we will see.

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Re: Discontinuation of MF-107 and MF-105m

Post by Croyote » Thu Apr 30, 2015 2:30 am

I'm only for discontinuing the MF-105M if there is an evolution on the design in the works.

The Minifoogers don't do it for me. If Moog Music is headed on a runaway money making train with those wimpy lil pedals good for them, but hopefully they won't forget what laid the sonic foundation for them. It was the Moogerfoogers and their mystical modular design. I still want to see a MF-103M, a MF-102M and a MF-101M.

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Re: Discontinuation of MF-107 and MF-105m

Post by deadhedgehog » Thu Apr 30, 2015 3:42 pm

It would be great if they could make 105M pattern presets saveable on the computer. But I was wondering: if the pedals are discontinued, do you have to hang on to the same computer forever to edit the patterns? Does the pattern editor work on new computers at all? (I use a mac running OSX 10.6.)

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Re: Discontinuation of MF-107 and MF-105m

Post by EricK » Sat May 02, 2015 12:15 pm

Hopefully they will fill the vacuum with modules.

I want the inductor based 907a
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Re: Discontinuation of MF-107 and MF-105m

Post by latigid on » Sun May 03, 2015 4:58 pm

EricK wrote:Hopefully they will fill the vacuum with modules.
Who knows, maybe they'll even fill the modules with vacuum (tubes)?

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Re: Discontinuation of MF-107 and MF-105m

Post by dumbledog » Sat May 16, 2015 10:07 am

Ordered one of the last of the 107s and it arrived today. Good stuff.

One thing that's a bit disappointing... I'm using it as an oscillator with my Microbrute, but even with the Freq pot at minimum it tunes rather sharp. I have to use the 251's mixer to drop the voltage by about half a mark. Not the end of the world but I'd rather use the mixer for other stuff. The MB is in tune, and when I do have the 107 set up this way it tracks just fine over a good four octaves at least. Any ideas?

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Re: Discontinuation of MF-107 and MF-105m

Post by latigid on » Mon May 18, 2015 2:46 pm

I think there's a V/oct trimmer in there, lots of Moogs track a little low because it's easier to cut than boost the incoming pitch CV.

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Re: Discontinuation of MF-107 and MF-105m

Post by dumbledog » Mon May 18, 2015 10:49 pm

Opened it up and you're right, there it is in the lower left:

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Googled and found an old thread discussing how to tune it, but I'm a bit confused. I would expect two pots, corresponding to the slope (v/oct) and offset, but there's only one. I don't think the slope is off but the offset -- that's why I have to knock off half a volt using the mixer. Or is my thinking on this wrong?

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Re: Discontinuation of MF-107 and MF-105m

Post by dumbledog » Tue May 19, 2015 12:56 am

... and replying to my own reply I got it working after about an hour. Didn't realize that the Freq knob is the offset I was looking for (the b to the trimpot's m in y = mx + b) but once that was done it was just a matter of getting the trimmer close a couple dozen times until I lucked out and landed on what it needs to be.


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Re: Discontinuation of MF-107 and MF-105m

Post by Bryan B » Wed May 20, 2015 9:48 am

Nice work!

Also: I just now saw the "Get your freq on" written on the PCB below R41 (right side of the pic towards the middle vertically). Awesome.
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Re: Discontinuation of MF-107 and MF-105m

Post by latigid on » Fri Jul 24, 2015 4:28 am

Well, Moog is sort of missing the boat here. Check out the 4ms SMRF:

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http://vimeo.com/132412775

http://www.4mspedals.com/htnew/smr.php




Basically a 6-band MuRF where the filters can be tuned to musically interesting intervals, even used as resonators with no audio input. Or a patchable vocoder!

Say what you want about small scale modular, but it seems the sonic palette is ever-expanding. An interesting perspective from MI designer Olivier Gillet:
http://blog.reddogmusic.co.uk/2015/07/2 ... interview/

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