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Adding Reverb/Delay/.. to Sub 37?

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:35 am
by JavaLaurence
Hi there,

I'm a Sub 37 beginner looking for some advice on what effect unit to add to a Sub 37? I'm pretty new to the world of monophonic effect-less synths, and am sure that most experienced people couple some kind of reverb-delay-type processor to their synth to really leverage the raw sounds..

Yesterday I bought an Electro-Harmonix Memory Boy, and frankly, the results aren't what I expected. This delay box is way too eager at filtering out high frequencies, so it fails to keep the rich, sharp character of many Sub 37 sounds.

Any advice/tips?

My ideal reverb/delay-type box would have real-time knobs to change delay ms, depth, etc.. without having to dive into menus.

Thx

Re: Adding Reverb/Delay/.. to Sub 37?

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:39 am
by MacAquinas
I have MF-104M Superdelay which is incredibly expensive but absolutely amazing.

But I have a Vox Tonelab ST(Tube) which has delay 40-1480 ms with adjustable feedback and 3 reverb types,and although the effects are digital the tube amp warms all the tones and I bet most would not be able to tell the difference between the Vox and an analog delay blindfolded. I think it's one of the best pedals I have ever owned.

Re: Adding Reverb/Delay/.. to Sub 37?

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 11:58 am
by MoogProg
I use a Minifooger MF Delay with my Sub37 and think it sounds great, but I also have an EHX Memory boy that I use for guitar.

If I had the budget for one, I'd get the Pigtronix Echolution 2 Deluxe and starting synching tempos and sweeps. Seems limitless with its MIDI and filter. :mrgreen:

Re: Adding Reverb/Delay/.. to Sub 37?

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 1:15 pm
by epignosis567
I have tried and a/b'd just about every analog delay on the market and most digital delays and my personal opinion is that the -deluxe- memory boy is the best analog delay pedal for the money, hands down. And it has a filter that allows you to adjust the brightness/darkness of the repeats.

Re: Adding Reverb/Delay/.. to Sub 37?

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 1:52 pm
by kvitekp
TC Electronic Flashback delay and Hall of Fame reverb do a good job on monosynths. Strymon Timelime and BigSky will do wonders, however the price is steep.

Re: Adding Reverb/Delay/.. to Sub 37?

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:01 pm
by epignosis567
Seconded. Timeline is my favorite digital delay with the flashback being next.

Re: Adding Reverb/Delay/.. to Sub 37?

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:02 pm
by epignosis567
But you don't want to do that to a nice moog...

Re: Adding Reverb/Delay/.. to Sub 37?

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 5:51 pm
by _DemonDan_
JavaLaurence wrote:I bought an Electro-Harmonix Memory Boy, and frankly, the results aren't what I expected. This delay box is way too eager at filtering out high frequencies, so it fails to keep the rich, sharp character of many Sub 37 sounds.
MoogProg wrote:If I had the budget for one, I'd get the Pigtronix Echolution 2 Deluxe and starting synching tempos and sweeps. Seems limitless with its MIDI and filter.
Video example of a Moog Solar Phatty into a Pigtronix Echolution 2 Deluxe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-iG6rJ1VYg
kvitekp wrote:TC Electronic Flashback delay and Hall of Fame reverb do a good job on monosynths.
Video example of a Moog Sub 37 into a TC Electronic Flashback:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDXESToG4p8
(Delay is on at 10:46, 21:56, and 34:24)

Re: Adding Reverb/Delay/.. to Sub 37?

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 7:22 pm
by DeckardTrinity
MF-104M here... it will absolutely color your delayed signal tho, very dark and low, but it is pure analog goodness and has a ton of CV inputs for additional control. When you get the feedback set into a nice sweet spot, you can just about use the delayed signal for a beat track.

I'm thinking of adding a Strymon BigSky reverb alongside it - really loving the reverbs in my Virus TI2 but want something with a bit more control.

Re: Adding Reverb/Delay/.. to Sub 37?

Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2014 9:32 pm
by scottingham
I have an MF104M and a Boss DD5.

The MF104M sounds awesome with it. Especially synced up via the midi for neat resonant delay effects. It does roll a lot of the high-end though. Consider an Eventide Timefactor. A friend has one of those and I've played my Sub37 through it. Great/pro level input buffers (the DD-5 has a bad problem with that, clipping sounds atrocious), well interfaced, midi synched. It can emulate an analog delay, but head to head against an MF104 it loses handily.

Re: Adding Reverb/Delay/.. to Sub 37?

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:08 pm
by mrberger
_DemonDan_ wrote: Video example of a Moog Solar Phatty into a Pigtronix Echolution 2 Deluxe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-iG6rJ1VYg
That is one MOST awesome delay. G.A.S. has struck again!

Re: Adding Reverb/Delay/.. to Sub 37?

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:42 pm
by JavaLaurence
I'm wondering if anyone here has heard how the Littlebits delay sounds? I bought the Synth Kit thinking it would be just a bit of fun.. but it sounds absolutely fantastic. It's so clean and has a superb depth. I'm after a delay for my Sub 37 which sounds similar to the delay bit in the Littlebits Synth Kit. I already hooked up the synth to the delay via the Littlebits Microphone bit, but that produced a distorted sound.. don't understand why.

The MF unit is totally out of my price bracket.. I can go up to $200.

BTW, on the subject of price, the Littlebits Delay module is based on a single chip (the hardware is open source, so you can check the schematic).. I almost fell off my chair when I looked up the price of that chip. :evil: