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Posted: **Tue Nov 15, 2005 5:41 am**

i started writing this trying to solve the problem of freq loss in the long setting on the 104 but came up with something quite different.

could you run the hi hats through a pitch shifter going an octave down before it hits the Z then through another one going an octave up after it comes out to of the delay get the correct pitch/frequencies using the delay.

Hang on i just realised that would make the delay 2x faster (if it were 1 octave down then 1 octave up) so you could just flip it to short mode anyway and save yourself 2 pitch shifters.

still i'm sure you could do some cool stuff with this, like getting the Z/SD/original to flange!

first go 2 octaves down

then use the delay

then go 2 octaves up

correct pitch and the delay is magically four times faster, so just modulate it a bit and there's your flanger!

hmm all i need now is 2 pitch shifters, anyone know of any good but cheap pitch shifters?

feels weird quoting myself but hey you might have missed it otherwise.

Posted: **Tue Nov 15, 2005 8:30 am**

the frequency shifter alters the frequencies, not the delay time so its not possible.
i havent tried shifting a sound 2 octaves down and then back up again but i suspect it would mess up the sound alot

get 2 104 instead and set the to minimum delay time and very slighlty modulate the time. mix the 100% wet signal of the to and you get a flanger with some latency

or get a flanger

Posted: **Tue Nov 15, 2005 11:13 am**

hmm yeah, you could do it the way i said, in post production, maybe?

i forgot that real-time pitch shifters wouldn't change the speed.

I can't afford another 104. ah just have to use my boss flanger.

i havent tried shifting a sound 2 octaves down and then back up again but i suspect it would mess up the sound alot

i think that would be a good thing, could sound awsome,
you know how if you half hold down the pause button on a cassette deck it slows it down, i once recorded doing this and then sped the tape up again. sounded cool, very unstable, used it on vocals for a radio assignment.

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flange with a 104, do you think this would work?

flange with a 104, do you think this would work?