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Hi-hat and cymbals

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 3:48 am
by micke1977
Hi.
I am new to Moog Subphatty and I have been working hard to make hi-hats and cymbals but can't make it sound good or even close. I wonder if there is some basic advice on how to get hi-hat where I can start working from or if I can get some settings for a very basic hi-hat that I can start modify and start work from. The drums I have made has been to much like Commodore 64 sounds and I am trying to make it sound more real.

Thanks!
/Micke

Re: Hi-hat and cymbals

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 6:56 am
by subb
I'm not sur the Sub Phatty can create those sounds. You need at least a high-pass filter.

Re: Hi-hat and cymbals

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 7:30 am
by Waza
Also Sub phatty's noise is - Pink noise i think, so it's very muddy sounding. I would just use another instrument to create hi-hats.

And what Subb said HPF.

Re: Hi-hat and cymbals

Posted: Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:36 am
by nofuturenocore
Hello, your post made me search on google for cymbal synthesis and it seems very hard to achieve :)

Here are the links I found:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/May02/a ... ts0502.asp
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Jun02/a ... ts0602.asp
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Jul02/a ... ts0702.asp

PS: Put your glasses :)

Re: Hi-hat and cymbals

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 10:42 am
by micke1977
Hi again, thanks for the advices. I have listended to some sounds and when comes to cymbals I found Flying Lotus - Such a Square http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mbvDCDk3yU which I Believe is made only on a subphatty, that cymbal is sounding not exactly as I am trying to but in the right directon.

Re: Hi-hat and cymbals

Posted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 4:09 pm
by blinkyuser
Hi,
I have figured out a way to do this. You have to put the filter into self oscillation i.e.(resonance is high) then "modulate" it with high frequency lfo (try saw setting). I managed to get a closed hat tr808style and hat a little more open but no cymbal yet. I have a syx file I could send you but when I try to attach it the board message tells me that I can't do that. You might have to go under the hood to get a higher frequency lfo.
Blinky

Re: Hi-hat and cymbals

Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:34 pm
by micke1977
Hi Blinky.
Thanks for the advice, I am gonna try it.
If you want to send the file you can send it to my mail adress micke1977@spray.se
/Micke