A novel idea A "Moog Soundcard"

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Considering devices for use with protools utilize DSP chips that can then be used for instruments and effects and so forth, what about a "Moog Soudcard". It would include 3 VCO's, a VCF, and a VCA, then an analog out. Essentially the computer would allow you to apply digital sources as modifiers, waves, etc. and would be fully modular as it would be software that connected all of these components. For instance you could apply a VCO as VCA modification, or you could modulate the VCF with a digital source, or have 3 VCO's, a digital waveform source (for instance you might run three digital oscillators), a digital mod source, and run that through your VCF and VCA making a huge analog/digital hybrid lead. You could also patch in digital effects prior to the analog out, or anywhere in line. You could run a minimoog emulation through a real moog VCF and VCA. Basically the sky would be the limit as to what could happen with routings and digital signals, and you'd still have real analog VCO's, VCF, and VCA.

[Voltor07]

No thanks, not interested. IMHO, Moog should NOT make such a thing, but rather, stick to hardware that interacts with other hardware via big cables with 1/4" phone plugs. You know, like the old days, when synths were the size and cost of a house?

[Portamental]

No. Ask Korg.

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I just thought that it would be really nice to basically have a modular analog synth. With a midi controller with knobs, how would it be that different than a slim phatty. I of course love hardware, but I'd rather have modular flexibility with something that only has 4 knobs and no keyboard. Obviously Moogs going in a great direction with the SubPhatty and minitaur going for one knob per function, but if they are going to build things like a Slim Phatty, why not do something like this that would be far more capable of an instrument?

[Portamental]

Please please please, no computers... You'll be obsolete every three years. My model D is pushing 40 and it's not.

[thealien666]

Today, it's all about software and apps. That's why Animoog was developed and is popular. Probably much more than a Moog Soundcard would be. Besides, producing apps costs almost nothing. But designing and producing hardware is extremely costly, even when made in China. The cost of a Moog soundcard would be prohibitive. Not to mention that the trend, in hardware synths these days, is toward getting back to basics: one-knob-per-function, rewarding, instantaneous hands-on experience (and gladly so)! A soundcard wouldn't offer any of that.

Thanks, but no thanks.

[Voltor07]

I just thought that it would be really nice to basically have a modular analog synth. With a midi controller with knobs, how would it be that different than a slim phatty. I of course love hardware, but I'd rather have modular flexibility with something that only has 4 knobs and no keyboard. Obviously Moogs going in a great direction with the SubPhatty and minitaur going for one knob per function, but if they are going to build things like a Slim Phatty, why not do something like this that would be far more capable of an instrument?

You can't have modular flexibility with four knobs. Not without sacrificing sound quality. You want a modular? Buy a modular. They aren't that expensive these days. Start with three VCO's a VCF and a VCA. See how that works out without envelopes.

[kslight]

I of course love hardware, but I'd rather have modular flexibility with something that only has 4 knobs and no keyboard.

I think you're very alone in this category.


As far as the "Moog Soundcard"...I don't want to be tethered to a computer. Not to mention that a lot of the big deal with analog synth hardware is having hands-on control...not just the sound.

[CZ Rider]

I of course love hardware, but I'd rather have modular flexibility with something that only has 4 knobs and no keyboard.

I think you're very alone in this category.

It would never sell. A four knob modular without a keyboard, that you need a computer?
What would they call it, a 'Micromodular".


At the end of the Moog/Norlin era, Moog was dabbling in the then new field of computers and music. One of the last Moog products was the Moog Songproducer for the C-64. There was a check box on the package indicating there was to be a hardware Moog analog module. Never saw the light of day, but interesting to wonder what they would have come up with in those early digital/analog pioneering days.

[kslight]

It would never sell. A four knob modular without a keyboard, that you need a computer?
What would they call it, a 'Micromodular".

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I used to own one. Something tells me that if they had sold well there would be more floating around and Clavia wouldn't have abandoned modular development. The micro modular really isn't programmable from its front panel, all you can do is twiddle those knobs to whatever you assigned them to. I like the concept, but the Micro was janky (power plug especially)... I upgraded to the full deal.

[EricK]

Considering devices for use with protools utilize DSP chips that can then be used for instruments and effects and so forth, what about a "Moog Soudcard". It would include 3 VCO's, a VCF, and a VCA, then an analog out. Essentially the computer would allow you to apply digital sources as modifiers, waves, etc. and would be fully modular as it would be software that connected all of these components. For instance you could apply a VCO as VCA modification, or you could modulate the VCF with a digital source, or have 3 VCO's, a digital waveform source (for instance you might run three digital oscillators), a digital mod source, and run that through your VCF and VCA making a huge analog/digital hybrid lead. You could also patch in digital effects prior to the analog out, or anywhere in line. You could run a minimoog emulation through a real moog VCF and VCA. Basically the sky would be the limit as to what could happen with routings and digital signals, and you'd still have real analog VCO's, VCF, and VCA.

I think that's a really neat idea but aren't the markets showing that pc and laptop purchases are down? I don't even think that ipads are going to be around much longer.

[MC]

There are many reasons I would NEVER want a real analog soundcard in my computer. Not interested in the least.

[_DemonDan_]

Wow... has it been one and a half years already?
I've already forgotten my first reminder

2013:

I don't even think that iPads are going to be around much longer.

2011:

Actually, iPads AREN'T here to stay.
Eric

Once a year, for the next five years, I'm going to publicly remind you of this quote.
_DemonDan_

http://forum.moogmusic.com/viewtopic.ph ... 184#p88184

[ZYKLIFF]

Nowhere in Moog's company mission does it say Analogue only. WHEN digital surpasses analogue (not even attempting to time-hack here) for sound quality... Moog will make a digital synth. Until then, I am thoroughly enjoying mi analogue oscillators with software flexibility.

[Portamental]

Until then, I am thoroughly enjoying mi analogue oscillators with software flexibility.

I am glad you are, but as the owner of a Minitaur, i am NOT!!