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Just signing in to say this is the best phaser I've ever heard.
Bonus is making mono synths stereo (yes ok there is the effect, but its so liquid and barely noticeable at subtle values) and that sweeeeeeet overdrive.
LFO going well into the audio range makes some great phaser FM madness.
I was reluctant to it since the LFO does not sync to MIDI, it would have been a huge "+" if it did and was thinking about getting a MIDI Murf.
So glad I got the MF-103 in the end.

Here's a pic of my new favorite FX pedal.

congratulations! that is an amazing threesome there. using the 103 as a pseudo bi-phase gets some amazing results as well. (102 LFO OUT -> 103 SWEEP IN (not Sweep) then AUX OUT -> Left Channel and AUDIO OUT -> Right Channel (or the other way around) then set the 102 and 103 lfos at different speeds and bath in the psychedelic wounder

Its like acid, but legal

I've never owned any other analog phasers but I agree that the 103 sounds amazing, it's gotta be one of the best modern phasers available. I never messed with the CV controls until recently getting a cp-251, now it's like a whole new pedal, getting fresh sounds out of it and I'm still only scratching the surface of the possiblities.

I can't figure out how to sync the LFO of the phaser with the LFO of the cp-251 yet though, is it possible? Anyone have any patching tips?

Interesting question... I will try that later this week... but right off the bat, here's a suggestion that should work.

Expression pedal to a white ring jack of the mixer section
From mixer out to attenuator in (optional)
From attenuator out to mult
Patch one cable from Mult to pedal in of the CP-251 LFO
Another from mult to rate jack of the MF-103

Start with LFO knobs at the 12 oclock position (i think).

With a little bit of tweaking, you should be able to achieve synchronicity (nice word)

The expression pedal in this set-up controls 3 LFO's (CP-251,MF-103, MF-104) through the mixer-attenuator-mult, very close to synchronicity. While the output from the mult is the same, each LFO has a slightly different range (MF-103 dual range) so each LFO knob has to be adjusted by eyesight (for now).

Not so easy to sync LFOs without a reset input, right?

Why not mult. out the CP-251 LFO and patch to SWEEP on the MF-103? You then have two other copies of the same LFO to use.

ColorForm2113 wrote:congratulations! that is an amazing threesome there. using the 103 as a pseudo bi-phase gets some amazing results as well. (102 LFO OUT -> 103 SWEEP IN (not Sweep) then AUX OUT -> Left Channel and AUDIO OUT -> Right Channel (or the other way around) then set the 102 and 103 lfos at different speeds and bath in the psychedelic wounder

That only worked for the SWEEP input. (MF-102) LFO OUT>MF-103 SWEEP IN had not effect.

nectarios wrote:

ColorForm2113 wrote:congratulations! that is an amazing threesome there. using the 103 as a pseudo bi-phase gets some amazing results as well. (102 LFO OUT -> 103 SWEEP IN (not Sweep) then AUX OUT -> Left Channel and AUDIO OUT -> Right Channel (or the other way around) then set the 102 and 103 lfos at different speeds and bath in the psychedelic wounder

That only worked for the SWEEP input. (MF-102) LFO OUT>MF-103 SWEEP IN had not effect.

Make sure you're in 12-stage mode.

latigid on wrote:

nectarios wrote:

ColorForm2113 wrote:congratulations! that is an amazing threesome there. using the 103 as a pseudo bi-phase gets some amazing results as well. (102 LFO OUT -> 103 SWEEP IN (not Sweep) then AUX OUT -> Left Channel and AUDIO OUT -> Right Channel (or the other way around) then set the 102 and 103 lfos at different speeds and bath in the psychedelic wounder

That only worked for the SWEEP input. (MF-102) LFO OUT>MF-103 SWEEP IN had not effect.

Make sure you're in 12-stage mode.

Did it today. Oh. My. God. This is quickly becoming my favorite fooger.
Thanks!

Yes, the 103 is my favourite phaser too... I've been through a few, and it has seen them all off.

The only thing I miss on it is the ability to invert the modulation - which would be handy for stereo use.

I recently compared the 103 to the old Small Stone, and though I thought I'd never sell the SS, as it was *perfect* for a specific sound or two, I found that putting a bit of EQ before the 103 made it very hard to tell them apart. The main difference then was the shape of the sweep, but an external LFO should solve that.

I hope they put out a new 103 with midi and a shape selector on the lfo. Until they do (might) I'm thinking I will remain unfazed.

Hmm... I bought the Moog 103 in order to see if it could replace my SubDecay Quasar DLX.


I kept both.

stiiiiiiive wrote:Hmm... I bought the Moog 103 in order to see if it could replace my SubDecay Quasar DLX.


I kept both.

Hmmmm. Very different bits of kit. Like the way the Quasar sounds though.

Stephen




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