CP 251 with "classic" minimoog?

rachel · Post by **rachel** » Mon Oct 20, 2003 1:28 am

Hi,
I have a "Classic" MiniMoog and was curious if the CP-251 is worth getting for it?
What will the CP-251 bring to my MiniMoog?

It has the usual inputs and outputs but has also been modded professionally some time in the past to have a standard CV/Gate input on 1/4" jacks as well.

I would like the analogue delay too, but they are just too rare now - thankfully I have
my old Amdek analogue delay for now.

I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who is using the CP-251 with their Classic MiniMoog.
I also have a doepfer A-100 (mini) and roland System-100 modulars as well.

thanks.....
rachel

ebolaboy2000 · Post by **ebolaboy2000** » Sat Nov 22, 2003 12:24 pm

Hi Rachel,

I use a CP-251 with my Korg Mono/Poly, specifically to add another LFO and S&H capabilities. I had also looked into starting a small modular system using Synthesis Technology MOTM modules, but you can't beat this for the price. I'm glad I bought it.

Later

sir_dss · Post by **sir_dss** » Sat Nov 22, 2003 7:33 pm

Analog Delays....

The MF-104 is quite fantastic. I have 2 that work(not for sale) so great with the X/Y/A pad of the Voyager.

...but I just got a Blacet Time Machine that is insane. 2 seconds of Delay with C/V control, and a built in LFO to warp the time sweep. It's wild. It also has a CV input for an envelope so you can "squash" the delay to 10ms and then gradually release it to 2 Seconds as your signal releases. Totally Kevin Shields MVB sounds with a guitar, and just bent with a synth.

http://blacet.com

sorry this got off topic

FIGS · Post by **FIGS** » Wed Dec 17, 2003 1:03 pm

Hi Rachel,

You wrote:

>I have a "Classic" MiniMoog and was curious if the CP-251 is worth getting for it?

I currently use a CP251 with my Model "D" Mini.

>>What will the CP-251 bring to my MiniMoog

The onboard LFO is useful as a modulator for pitch, filter or loudness.

Although I have the 1125 Sample-and-Hold module, the one on the CP251 add another level of complexity and irregularity to the set-up.

The four channel mixer (and spare attenuators) are possibly the most useful components for me, as I have the 1130 Percussion Controller and 1120 Pedal in addition to the S&H and rather than re-patching all the time, I just turn things up or down on the 251.

The "hidden" low pass filter within the onboard S&H circuit has been useful too, if not by accident.

I had always hoped for a better LFO for the Mini (OSC3 control is cool and all) and the range of 251's LFO is great! Expression pedal control to boot!

Highly recomended.

Osci-later,

FIGS

agermani · Post by **agermani** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 6:22 pm

The "hidden" low pass filter within the onboard S&H circuit has been useful too, if not by accident.

FIGS, what is this "hidden" low pass filter that you speak of residing in the CP-251's sample and hold? I'm very intrigued.

The CP-251 is definitely money well spent for anyone who owns a Model D. You'll be amazed at what you can do with just it and a few patch cords. And getting an expression pedal or old-school voltage pedal will take your modulation fun to the next level. Go for it, buy a CP-251!

FIGS · Post by **FIGS** » Mon Jan 12, 2004 7:28 pm

If you follow the user's guide lead (page 13), it speaks of the second S&H output (the "smoothed one") to actually be low pass filtered. The "cutoff" being tied to the LFO rate.

I generally use a source other than the noise as the input and express pedal the LFO rate to sweep the filter.

Within the S&H function, its a neat twist.

No, it is not like the low pass filter pedal.

Hope this helps,

FIGS

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